I still feel like he doesn't get it. You asked him to stop, and he liked your comment.

I'm not going to jump in and give him another woman to not believe, but I'm really aggravated at his attitude and dismissal of people who don't meet his ideals of proper dialogue.

Liese, it was, but JFC I think it was for naught.

Oh, he definitely doesn't get it. But hey, I tried! Hahahahahahahah oh god i'm so tired

You're amazing, Liese. I'm so sorry.

You don't have to be sorry, aurelia, it wasn't on you in any way.

I'm glad we're backchanneling about it, though, because seriously, holy fuck.

That all went off the rails while I was on the phone with my parents so I couldn't even catch up.

The thing is, bro's like your dude are the ones we need to convert. He totally could get it, he just felt defensive.

That's what most of this is, honestly, anxiety that they've been harassing, themselves. And that's uncomfortable, but hey, bro, don't mind me, that's a discomfort you're gonna have to sit with, because I've been on the other side of it my whole life.

aurelia, you're not responsible for what comes out of other people's mouths.

His sense of entitlement is ridic.

There is a bigger conversation that I wish we could get into, but there isn't enough space for even the basic nuance of what's going on in this, very simple, conversation. All this exercise is doing is saying, hey, you've heard that it happens to most women, but you don't believe it, so here's a chance for the actual women in your life to show you that it does, in fact, happen to them. Dassit. But that's still too much to take for these dudes.

That's the point I tried to make to him.

I've been making a concerted effort to not follow tangents in online arguments. I wasn't ignoring any of you, just trying to keep my part of the discussion as linear as possible.

No, I think that was good.