You're amazing, Liese. I'm so sorry.
I fed off a flowerperson, and I spent the next six hours watchin' my hand move.
Spike ,'Same Time, Same Place'
Spike's Bitches 49: As usual, I'm here to help you, and I... are you naked under there?
Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.
aurelia - Oct 15, 2017 6:24:30 pm PDT #2224 of 8214
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.
Liese S. - Oct 15, 2017 6:26:08 pm PDT #2225 of 8214
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."
You don't have to be sorry, aurelia, it wasn't on you in any way.
I'm glad we're backchanneling about it, though, because seriously, holy fuck.
aurelia - Oct 15, 2017 6:26:52 pm PDT #2226 of 8214
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.
That all went off the rails while I was on the phone with my parents so I couldn't even catch up.
Liese S. - Oct 15, 2017 6:37:10 pm PDT #2227 of 8214
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."
The thing is, bro's like your dude are the ones we need to convert. He totally could get it, he just felt defensive.
That's what most of this is, honestly, anxiety that they've been harassing, themselves. And that's uncomfortable, but hey, bro, don't mind me, that's a discomfort you're gonna have to sit with, because I've been on the other side of it my whole life.
Maria - Oct 15, 2017 6:37:19 pm PDT #2228 of 8214
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift
aurelia, you're not responsible for what comes out of other people's mouths.
His sense of entitlement is ridic.
Liese S. - Oct 15, 2017 6:40:37 pm PDT #2229 of 8214
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."
There is a bigger conversation that I wish we could get into, but there isn't enough space for even the basic nuance of what's going on in this, very simple, conversation. All this exercise is doing is saying, hey, you've heard that it happens to most women, but you don't believe it, so here's a chance for the actual women in your life to show you that it does, in fact, happen to them. Dassit. But that's still too much to take for these dudes.
aurelia - Oct 15, 2017 6:59:31 pm PDT #2230 of 8214
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.
That's the point I tried to make to him.
I've been making a concerted effort to not follow tangents in online arguments. I wasn't ignoring any of you, just trying to keep my part of the discussion as linear as possible.
Liese S. - Oct 15, 2017 7:06:15 pm PDT #2231 of 8214
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."
No, I think that was good.
aurelia - Oct 15, 2017 7:36:06 pm PDT #2232 of 8214
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.
I love you all.
And now I must sleep because in addition to the focus call I have to supervise tomorrow, I also have to talk to the HR rep of a vendor about the inappropriate comment one of their employees made about me to one of my colleagues.
Liese S. - Oct 15, 2017 7:51:28 pm PDT #2233 of 8214
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."
Ha! Because of course you do!
Get some rest. Be fortified, we've all got your back.