I may be love's bitch, but at least I'm man enough to admit it.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Spike's Bitches 49: As usual, I'm here to help you, and I... are you naked under there?

Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Beverly - Oct 12, 2017 10:39:19 am PDT #2188 of 8214
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

ETA: I forgot to type my chuckle at the surgery buddies and ice packs, Steph.

Suzi, I'm glad your vet counsels waiting. Although the benefits of neutering are many and important, there've been studies done on the effects of neutering very early, which leads to problems as the animals mature--bone length and lack of density, primarily, which there's some indication it can lead to bone cancers. There's some evidence of failure to mature of some organs, as well. The studies are ongoing.

Good pet-keeping requires neutering, but I can't agree with doing it at six weeks, as some shelters do--a requirement before adoption. Six months seems like a much more reasonable goal--or five, in the case of girl cats, since many of them have their first heat around then.


brenda m - Oct 12, 2017 10:47:20 am PDT #2189 of 8214
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Steph, that is delightful.

The bad - She is not housebroken at all

Ugh. We are struggling with my dad's new dog. Who they told us (the night before adoption day) will occasionally have an accident when she gets excited.

She's a Jack Russell.

If she's conscious, she's excited.

I'm thinking about putting my dad in touch with Bonnie, actually. We're just not sure how to get through to her. She's in a weird in between situation - if she has access to the outside, she'll go outside. But she doesn't have any inclination to ask or to wait if she's worked up and you're not totally focused on her. It's a little exhausting.


SuziQ - Oct 12, 2017 10:51:03 am PDT #2190 of 8214
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Bev, that is what I'm being told is a good six months. We think Jack was neutered too young but have no real way of knowing.

The rescue I work with has an adoption fee and then a refundable deposit you have to put down if the animal hasn't been neutered yet. Once he/she has surgery, at the rescue's vet, the deposit is returned. Thanks to my relationship with the rescue, I didn't have to put down the deposit, which was nice. It is interesting that the rescue's vet was all good about scheduling him at 5 months when my vet AND the rescue advocate 6 months.


Steph L. - Oct 12, 2017 10:56:58 am PDT #2191 of 8214
I look more rad than Lutheranism

One human sized ice pack, one kitten sized ice pack.

Right? They can recuperate together and watch cat-based shows on Hulu.


Fred Pete - Oct 12, 2017 11:04:21 am PDT #2192 of 8214
Ann, that's a ferret.

Good pet-keeping requires neutering, but I can't agree with doing it at six weeks, as some shelters do--a requirement before adoption. Six months seems like a much more reasonable goal--or five, in the case of girl cats, since many of them have their first heat around then.

Most of our adoptions have involved adult cats. However, when we adopt kittens, spaying or neutering has generally occurred at four to six months.

They can recuperate together and watch cat-based shows on Hulu.

Some of our cats have enjoyed sports on TV (fascinated by the moving ball, I think). Which is not to say that either Tim or the kitten would.


Steph L. - Oct 12, 2017 11:16:00 am PDT #2193 of 8214
I look more rad than Lutheranism

They can recuperate together and watch cat-based shows on Hulu.

Some of our cats have enjoyed sports on TV (fascinated by the moving ball, I think). Which is not to say that either Tim or the kitten would.

When we watch TV, Murderbiscuit either curls up in the heated bed or squishes between us on the couch. He generally falls asleep, but sometimes he actually watches the TV *really* intently. He seems to be a Brooklyn Nine-Nine fan.


SuziQ - Oct 12, 2017 11:20:26 am PDT #2194 of 8214
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

But she doesn't have any inclination to ask or to wait if she's worked up and you're not totally focused on her. It's a little exhausting.

I have this issue with Crowley. I've been trying to bell train him. We did it with Jack and it works great for him. Every time I let him out in the back yard, he has to touch some hanging bells with his nose. Then it is out, do your business. If you are just wandering around, we go back in. There is a period of time where you have to respond to every bell ring, until they connect bells = business. Crowley will ring the bells when I ask him to, but he doesn't do it on his own.


brenda m - Oct 12, 2017 12:00:42 pm PDT #2195 of 8214
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I've suggested that, might have to push harder. I have no doubt she could learn it.

She's such a hoot, otherwise. Always on a mission.


Hil R. - Oct 12, 2017 4:27:43 pm PDT #2196 of 8214
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Blah. I think I'm getting a cold. I was supposed to go visit my friend and her new baby tomorrow, but if I'm still feeling like this then, then I won't. (I'm just coughing a bit, and a little stuffed up. Perfectly fine for going to work, but not fine for visiting a baby who's less than a week old.)


askye - Oct 12, 2017 4:38:09 pm PDT #2197 of 8214
Thrive to spite them

I have no idea what I'm going to do about the job thing . But I had another message for an interview so that feels good.

Therapy went well. I was telling my therapist about various things and how I got this recliner and got it into the house myself even though I didn't think o could . It was such a silly little thing to be happy about but I did feel this big sense of accomplishment and felt a bit childish for feeling that happy. He said that when we are kids we learn a sense of feeling/capableness when they are 6-13 and I didn't develop that for a variety of reasons. But hey I can learn that now.

And then I had a really amazing afternoon/evening with M.

Hil I hope you feel better