You'll fight, and you'll shag, and you'll hate each other till it makes you quiver, but you'll never be friends.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Boxed Set, Vol. VI: I am not a number, I am a free thread!

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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askye - Apr 16, 2017 4:48:10 am PDT #416 of 2020
Thrive to spite them

I liked Bill. She picked up on stuff but wasn't overly accepting of certain things.

I started to watch Class but didn't finish I may re watch it


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 16, 2017 5:09:31 am PDT #417 of 2020
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Bill really worked for me. She's an interesting three-dimensional character, but she's not being presented as some special snowflake who was born to be the ultimate companion. The slow burn with the Doctor developing an interest in her well before running away on a big adventure was a nice change. And Capaldi and Pearl Mackie have great chemistry.


Frankenbuddha - Apr 16, 2017 10:26:19 am PDT #418 of 2020
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I really like Bill and am relieved we won't likely have an unrequited love story - at least involving The Doctor, I hope. By the way - Hi all. Been out of the loop for a bit. Will probably have an Apocalypse post on that soon.


Jessica - Apr 16, 2017 2:33:37 pm PDT #419 of 2020
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

I'm curious about Class, but I didn't record or watch it. I loved the reboot vibe of this ep (even down to the title - oh, Moffat, aren't you clever), and I *love* Bill.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 16, 2017 5:30:31 pm PDT #420 of 2020
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I've *really* enjoyed four of the last five Who episodes (wasn't crazy about the Dr. Mysterio Christmas special). It's a foreign feeling to me in the Moffat run.


EpicTangent - Apr 16, 2017 10:02:28 pm PDT #421 of 2020
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

Definitely liking Bill so far. Enjoyed Class as well; I think it had a vibe similar to, though slightly older than, Sarah Jane Adventures .


billytea - Apr 17, 2017 8:43:25 pm PDT #422 of 2020
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I'm disappointed no one mentioned the surprisingly aerodynamic Movellans. Possibly my favourite gratuitous clasic series cameo so far.

The actual plot this ep was pretty thin. It was pretty clearly acting as a vehicle to set up the rest of the season. (Not a complaint, really. I do like Bill, and I loved "Is it my imagination, or is this taking longer than normal?" Someday I'd like to see a montage of every companion's first look into the TARDIS. Moffat especially seems to enjoy finding new quirks to throw into it. The vault and the "I made a promise!" business I'm fairly neutral on at the moment.)


Anne W. - Apr 18, 2017 8:49:05 am PDT #423 of 2020
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I love that the Doctor had a photo of Susan on his desk. Dare I hope that comes up again later in the season?


Jessica - Apr 18, 2017 11:47:58 am PDT #424 of 2020
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Bill pointing out that "TARDIS" only works in English (and the Doctor's handwaving it away) was a lovely little moment.


billytea - Apr 18, 2017 12:36:02 pm PDT #425 of 2020
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Tying those two points together, at the outset of the series Susan claimed to have coined the term "TARDIS". Perhaps that just means that she came up with its English name.