Wash: I mean, I'm the one she swore to love, honor and obey. Mal: Listen... She swore to obey? Wash: Well, no, not...

'War Stories'


Boxed Set, Vol. VI: I am not a number, I am a free thread!

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Jessica - Apr 16, 2017 2:33:37 pm PDT #419 of 2020
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

I'm curious about Class, but I didn't record or watch it. I loved the reboot vibe of this ep (even down to the title - oh, Moffat, aren't you clever), and I *love* Bill.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 16, 2017 5:30:31 pm PDT #420 of 2020
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I've *really* enjoyed four of the last five Who episodes (wasn't crazy about the Dr. Mysterio Christmas special). It's a foreign feeling to me in the Moffat run.


EpicTangent - Apr 16, 2017 10:02:28 pm PDT #421 of 2020
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

Definitely liking Bill so far. Enjoyed Class as well; I think it had a vibe similar to, though slightly older than, Sarah Jane Adventures .


billytea - Apr 17, 2017 8:43:25 pm PDT #422 of 2020
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I'm disappointed no one mentioned the surprisingly aerodynamic Movellans. Possibly my favourite gratuitous clasic series cameo so far.

The actual plot this ep was pretty thin. It was pretty clearly acting as a vehicle to set up the rest of the season. (Not a complaint, really. I do like Bill, and I loved "Is it my imagination, or is this taking longer than normal?" Someday I'd like to see a montage of every companion's first look into the TARDIS. Moffat especially seems to enjoy finding new quirks to throw into it. The vault and the "I made a promise!" business I'm fairly neutral on at the moment.)


Anne W. - Apr 18, 2017 8:49:05 am PDT #423 of 2020
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I love that the Doctor had a photo of Susan on his desk. Dare I hope that comes up again later in the season?


Jessica - Apr 18, 2017 11:47:58 am PDT #424 of 2020
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Bill pointing out that "TARDIS" only works in English (and the Doctor's handwaving it away) was a lovely little moment.


billytea - Apr 18, 2017 12:36:02 pm PDT #425 of 2020
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Tying those two points together, at the outset of the series Susan claimed to have coined the term "TARDIS". Perhaps that just means that she came up with its English name.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 18, 2017 2:16:30 pm PDT #426 of 2020
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Time Lords tend to refer to them as capsules, don't they? It's just the Doctor and Time Lords closely associated with him that call them TARDISes.


billytea - Apr 18, 2017 2:31:18 pm PDT #427 of 2020
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Time Lords tend to refer to them as capsules, don't they? It's just the Doctor and Time Lords closely associated with him that call them TARDISes.

I think that's largely the case. Of course, the TARDIS translates other languages into the listener's native tongue, so even if one were to hear a Time Lord say "TARDIS", that doesn't mean that's what they said in Gallifreyan.

During the First Doctor's tenure, during Ian and Barbara's time at least, even the Doctor mostly called it the ship.


Jessica - Apr 18, 2017 3:30:38 pm PDT #428 of 2020
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Tying those two points together, at the outset of the series Susan claimed to have coined the term "TARDIS". Perhaps that just means that she came up with its English name.

I'd forgotten that! Makes me wonder if we'll see Susan this season.