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Mal ,'Ariel'


Boxed Set, Vol. VI: I am not a number, I am a free thread!

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


esse - Apr 29, 2020 4:04:34 pm PDT #1614 of 2020
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Yeah, I noped out of LG's "The Magicians" no less than six times before I finally, begrudgingly, read it -- and that was only because I had watched enough of the show that I was morbidly curious about the differences. Hated the book. Hated Book!Quentin. Still haven't been able to read the subsequent two novels.

And I noped out of season 5 of the Magicians because of the end of S4; I was very in love with the show and it broke my heart nearly irreparably.


Steph L. - Apr 29, 2020 4:51:40 pm PDT #1615 of 2020
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

There's very little I remember from the first 2 books (never read the third), except for Julia's story arc in the second book, which is basically her story arc in TV S1. I LOVED her story arc so much -- and then when it got to the Reynard of it all, I threw the book across the room, because god DAMN.

I'm completely spoiled through the end of S5, and I'm not looking forward to the end of S4, but I expect I'll watch S5.


esse - Apr 29, 2020 5:04:50 pm PDT #1616 of 2020
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Yeah, that's what noped me out of season 1 of the Magicians originally, but then it a bunch of my friends got into it and it was really good... IDK, I suspect I'll probably watch s5 eventually but with a definite sense of cynicism. It sucked a lot because I really loved the ensemble, and in particular the actors, who were fantastic and did not deserve what the show did to them.


Laura - Apr 30, 2020 4:49:26 am PDT #1617 of 2020
Our wings are not tired.

I binged the series fairly quickly. There was much eyerolling, except when I remembered Tom's advice to view it as a comedy, which helped. Margot, Eliot, and Josh made it the most fun for me, although now that I think back Penny was not so hard on the eyes either. So yeah, the actors kept me clicking next episode.


chrismg - Apr 30, 2020 6:50:09 am PDT #1618 of 2020
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade

So recent episodes of Motherland: Fort Salem have made it clearer what the underlying story is. Stop me if you've heard this one:

A small subgroup of humanity has physical differences that give them special powers. There's a struggle going on between two factions with ideological differences over how they should relate to the larger population. One faction is working towards assimilation, with emphasis on how useful the special group can be. The other is violently separatist, including attempting to foment a race war between the special group and the rest of the humans. Meanwhile, small populations of the special group are caught in the middle.


-t - Apr 30, 2020 8:06:24 am PDT #1619 of 2020
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

There are worse stories to retell


chrismg - Apr 30, 2020 9:07:21 am PDT #1620 of 2020
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade

Well, yeah, but if it turns out the Spree are being run by General Alder's evil ex, I'm either going to throw something or fall over laughing. Or both.


esse - Apr 30, 2020 9:48:15 am PDT #1621 of 2020
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

To be fair it is on the CW! There's only so many variations on young adult superpower adventure time they seem capable of telling, generally.

I haven't started the show yet, but I did watch the clip of the Beltane dance, because -- dancing. I really enjoyed this BTS featurette about the dance itself, which features the previz choreography:

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chrismg - Apr 30, 2020 11:18:34 am PDT #1622 of 2020
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade

It's on Freeform. Which doesn't entirely invalidate your point... Between this, Siren and Cloak and Dagger, Freeform seems to be carving out a niche for "mildly edgy SFF network"


Dana - Apr 30, 2020 4:13:11 pm PDT #1623 of 2020
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

esse, you wanted to talk about Roswell? This would be the place.