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Boxed Set, Vol. VI: I am not a number, I am a free thread!

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Laura - Apr 30, 2020 4:49:26 am PDT #1617 of 2020
Our wings are not tired.

I binged the series fairly quickly. There was much eyerolling, except when I remembered Tom's advice to view it as a comedy, which helped. Margot, Eliot, and Josh made it the most fun for me, although now that I think back Penny was not so hard on the eyes either. So yeah, the actors kept me clicking next episode.


chrismg - Apr 30, 2020 6:50:09 am PDT #1618 of 2020
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade

So recent episodes of Motherland: Fort Salem have made it clearer what the underlying story is. Stop me if you've heard this one:

A small subgroup of humanity has physical differences that give them special powers. There's a struggle going on between two factions with ideological differences over how they should relate to the larger population. One faction is working towards assimilation, with emphasis on how useful the special group can be. The other is violently separatist, including attempting to foment a race war between the special group and the rest of the humans. Meanwhile, small populations of the special group are caught in the middle.


-t - Apr 30, 2020 8:06:24 am PDT #1619 of 2020
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

There are worse stories to retell


chrismg - Apr 30, 2020 9:07:21 am PDT #1620 of 2020
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade

Well, yeah, but if it turns out the Spree are being run by General Alder's evil ex, I'm either going to throw something or fall over laughing. Or both.


esse - Apr 30, 2020 9:48:15 am PDT #1621 of 2020
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

To be fair it is on the CW! There's only so many variations on young adult superpower adventure time they seem capable of telling, generally.

I haven't started the show yet, but I did watch the clip of the Beltane dance, because -- dancing. I really enjoyed this BTS featurette about the dance itself, which features the previz choreography:

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chrismg - Apr 30, 2020 11:18:34 am PDT #1622 of 2020
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade

It's on Freeform. Which doesn't entirely invalidate your point... Between this, Siren and Cloak and Dagger, Freeform seems to be carving out a niche for "mildly edgy SFF network"


Dana - Apr 30, 2020 4:13:11 pm PDT #1623 of 2020
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

esse, you wanted to talk about Roswell? This would be the place.


-t - Apr 30, 2020 4:47:03 pm PDT #1624 of 2020
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I haven't watched the show at all but that dance video is pretty delightful. I am just tickled by the thought that they hired a fight choreographer and then said "you can do musical numbers? Oh we are so using that!"


esse - Apr 30, 2020 5:53:30 pm PDT #1625 of 2020
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Oh right. I mentally conflate Freeform and The CW all the time. They definitely make similar products.

Dana! There was a threesome! They did that! And there was all the queerness!

I did not expect it, my bar is low, and yet o how I was rewarded.


Dana - Apr 30, 2020 6:08:08 pm PDT #1626 of 2020
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

Yeah, this is where being on Tumblr, which was mostly fun up until that point, kind of ruined things for me. The episode leaked early, and people immediately started with the drama, and there's a significant portion of the fandom that believes Maria and/or Michael sexually assaulted Alex.

Which makes me upset in a few different ways, not least of which is that I should have been able to totally enjoy what happened, and instead it was just kind of queasy.

However, plot- and relationship-wise, it's pretty fucking cool. I think Forrest is kind of terrible, but Michael and Maria are adorable, and I know the show is working on having Michael and Alex grow to the point where they can be in a healthy relationship with each other.