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Boxed Set, Vol. VI: I am not a number, I am a free thread!

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


askye - Jan 14, 2020 6:24:22 pm PST #1459 of 2020
Thrive to spite them

I forgot about Crisis and it was LoT tonight! arg. I need to watch it tomorrow. I need my Legends fix


Calli - Jan 15, 2020 4:15:57 am PST #1460 of 2020
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

That's so sad about Stan Kirsch.


Toddson - Jan 15, 2020 9:07:25 am PST #1461 of 2020
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

askye, I started to watch, but it was more of the Crisis; since I wasn't feeling great, I turned off and went to bed. I THINK the whole Crisis thing is over ... although there was a bit at the beginning that had me boggled.


askye - Jan 15, 2020 11:07:36 am PST #1462 of 2020
Thrive to spite them

Yeah Legends was just the end of Crisis. It doesn't fully come back yet.

I loved that they made the final part of it more Legends flavor.

I noticed that Brandon Roth flubbed and said Cait instead of Sarah when he first saw her and they kept it.

Also I liked Mick telling his fan to call him Rebecca.

They did an ok job hiding the actress's pregnancy with the Killer Frost costume. You could tell but they didn't put something huge in front of her.

And the end was Gleek! From Superfriends. The end was supposed to he Justice League of America but Superfriends was the animated version of that.

I think this was a good way to get the various people together and have I guess new options (I'm assuming that is the implication of the new multiverse).

I don't know if this was intentional but I liked that the Legends featured were the 3 original ones who had the closest ties to Ollie.


Kalshane - Jan 15, 2020 11:51:02 am PST #1463 of 2020
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I'm still way behind on Arrowverse (like seasons behind) but gave up on avoiding spoilers. One of the comments on AV Club mentioned that Routh's Superman has the yellow back in his costume, suggesting all his loved ones who originally died are alive again on this new Earth.


askye - Jan 15, 2020 1:52:53 pm PST #1464 of 2020
Thrive to spite them

I stopped watching Arrow and I'm behind on the Flash so I didn't quite get some of the info. Like I had NO IDEA who was working with Dig and was there mourning Ollie. But I got the gist of it.


DXMachina - Jan 15, 2020 4:18:48 pm PST #1465 of 2020
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Like I had NO IDEA who was working with Dig and was there mourning Ollie.

Wild Dog and the new Black Canary.

One of the comments on AV Club mentioned that Routh's Superman has the yellow back in his costume, suggesting all his loved ones who originally died are alive again on this new Earth.

So how come some Earth's got combined and others didn't? Is the new Stargirl series gonna be set on Earth-2?

Barry meeting Ezra Miller!Barry was neat. So was the bit showing Green Lantern, although not showing which one. And seeing the Titans AND Doom Patrol (although on separate Earths, WTF?). And Brandon doing the Christopher Reeve finish was awesome.


DXMachina - Jan 15, 2020 5:13:24 pm PST #1466 of 2020
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

In other CW/DC news, Superman and Lois has been picked up.


Pix - Jan 15, 2020 5:54:43 pm PST #1467 of 2020
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Is it just me, or was that Doctor Who episode total crap? I love Jodie Whittaker, but I hate the way they are writing her. And I am the choir, and even I was annoyed by being preached to at the end.


billytea - Jan 15, 2020 6:10:13 pm PST #1468 of 2020
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Is it just me, or was that Doctor Who episode total crap? I love Jodie Whittaker, but I hate the way they are writing her. And I am the choir, and even I was annoyed by being preached to at the end.

...I liked some of the visual work? But no, that ep was astonishingly bad. Which is a great shame, because the writer did my favourite episode from last season. I don't know what went wrong here.

I will note that for Chibnall's era I've mostly complained about its moral incoherence, and at least this ep didn't have that. It wasn't complicated enough for incoherence. But I couldn't make head nor tail from the actual plot or pretty much any of the guest characters. I still have little idea why anyone was doing any of the things they were doing.

Its rating on IMDB is 4.6. That's lower than any other episode off the modern era. I think it's the lowest rating of any Doctor who episode ever.