Zoe: What's that, sir? Mal: Freedom, is what. Zoe: No, I meant what's that? Mal: Oh. Yeah. Just step around it. I think something must've been living in here.

'Out Of Gas'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sparky1 - Feb 10, 2017 4:06:33 am PST #7162 of 30002
Librarian Warlord

That house is lovely. If Canadian citizenship comes with for me and my family, I will buy it!

I am looking at the Supreme Court and wondering is John Roberts would really sign the next Korematsu. (JR is a really good human being - I don't always agree with him, but he is good. Clarence Thomas is a terrible person and would sign Korematsu twice if he could.) I don't know that they are really 4-4 if the DOJ goes straight to them.


Gudanov - Feb 10, 2017 4:17:56 am PST #7163 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

I don't think you can compare Trump's EO directly to Korematsu. As far as the case goes, I dunno, the President does have broad authority over immigration, but this order seems in violation of Hart-Celler given that there is no particular evidence of a real national security threat. I think it could go 5-3, 4-4, or 3-5 with John Roberts or Anthony Kennedy as the swing votes, but I think 4-4 or 3-5 would be the most likely and either way upholds the lower court.

So important though. I'm sure the strategy is to have this be the first step in a broader Muslim ban. It's not exactly three dimensional chess.


Gudanov - Feb 10, 2017 4:25:28 am PST #7164 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

I'm starting to think that Ivanka needs to move into the WH and pull an Edith Wilson.


Toddson - Feb 10, 2017 5:43:44 am PST #7165 of 30002
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Before the election I'd suggested to someone that the family would have to sit himself down and have an intervention ... or find a nice place in the country where he couldn't do any harm.


Toddson - Feb 10, 2017 5:44:45 am PST #7166 of 30002
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

And in regard to the escape room - we had a team-building exercise in mid-November at one of those places. I was really bad at it. However, I was the ONLY ONE who knew that the safe is always behiind a picture. Obviously, no one else read Agatha Christie.


SuziQ - Feb 10, 2017 6:18:32 am PST #7167 of 30002
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

However, I was the ONLY ONE who knew that the safe is always behind a picture.

So tomorrow - Step 1 - look behind any pictures. Got it.


Gudanov - Feb 10, 2017 6:24:14 am PST #7168 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

How could nobody else know that? The safe is behind the picture in every TV show and movie and novel ever.


Sophia Brooks - Feb 10, 2017 6:25:41 am PST #7169 of 30002
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Those escape room things seem like they would make the worst of my opposing tendencies of wanting to be nice, polite and a people pleaser, and also really wanting to be the best at things.

This comes out whenever we have team building activities.


flea - Feb 10, 2017 6:30:46 am PST #7170 of 30002
information libertarian

Should I talk to my boss about applying for the about-to-be-vacant position of Team Leader (= sub-boss) in my department? Pros: it pays a lot more, it's supervisory experience for the resume (the position directly supervises our shelving team), I could stay in my department which I generally like, I think I could make a case that I could handle continuing to be the Grants Librarian and teaching classes while doing this role (being the Grants Librarian is the part of my job that I generally find most meaningful). Cons: I would basically be working for The Man as the administrative culture at my workplace is toxic and kind of insane and I have heretofore kept well away from that but this position mandates inclusion in it, plus I think I am not well suited temperamentally to supervising people (people, so exhausting, I barely have energy for my immediate family), a big part of the job is scheduling which is super-boring but really vital in our department of 30 people with a lot of part-timers working unusual hours.


EpicTangent - Feb 10, 2017 7:11:05 am PST #7171 of 30002
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

Those escape room things seem like they would make the worst of my opposing tendencies of wanting to be nice, polite and a people pleaser, and also really wanting to be the best at things.

This was pretty much my experience recently at a "Murder Mystery Scavenger Hunt". Personality mix is SUPER important, I think. That was most of what ruined what could have been a fun evening for me.