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Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Kalshane - Jan 30, 2017 5:53:06 pm PST #6448 of 30002
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Ugh. I don't even know what to do. I keep alternating between rage and sadness with all the Trump bullshit. It's infuriating the number of people who can't tell the difference between legal immigrants, illegal immigrants and refugees. The number of people saying "Good on Trump for kicking the illegals out" in regards to the Muslim ban is just mind-blowing. (Obviously, illegal immigration isn't cut and dry either, but the fact that it's all the same in these people's minds is just flabbergasting.)

Gud, I have no idea if it would do any good with your friend, but Andrew Sullivan had an eye-opening and heart-breaking conversation on abortion with women on his blog back in 2009: [link]


Kalshane - Jan 30, 2017 6:00:20 pm PST #6449 of 30002
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

When I look at the conservative feed at Blue Feed/Red Feed, I noticed that a good number of articles seem to support the immigration executive order because it upsets liberals rather than the merits of the policy itself. I wonder if the liberal feed was similar while Obama was President. I like to think that wasn't the case, but I don't really know. I don't feel like I hate conservatives, I just don't think their policies will be good for the country. I also have been very disappointed that they defined themselves as against everything Obama rather than articulating their own solutions.

I find people being in favor of (or against) something simply because it would make the other side angry to be incredibly infuriating, petty and self-destructive. It pisses me off when anyone does it, regardless of their political leanings.

I don't agree with most conservative views, but I don't hate them as a whole (I have plenty of hate towards certain individuals, though.) I think a lot of their views are short-sighted and wrong, but I believe most (though certainly not all) are legitimately trying to do what they think is best for the country.

On the flip-side, there are certainly liberals who piss me off by starting off with a good point and then somewhere along the line taking off into crazy land and completely undermining themselves. (I feel Michael Moore does this a lot.)


Gudanov - Jan 30, 2017 6:32:14 pm PST #6450 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

On the flip-side, there are certainly liberals who piss me off by starting off with a good point and then somewhere along the line taking off into crazy land and completely undermining themselves.

Yeah. That's frustrating. The thing that frustrates me the most is when liberals say stuff that isn't true. I'm like, Dude, you don't need to resort to alternative facts to make your case. It doesn't help.


Kalshane - Jan 30, 2017 6:43:37 pm PST #6451 of 30002
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Yeah. That's frustrating. The thing that frustrates me the most is when liberals say stuff that isn't true. I'm like, Dude, you don't need to resort to alternative facts to make your case. It doesn't help.

Exactly. Because now your opponents don't have to counter your real points, they can just discredit you by tearing apart your falsehoods.


msbelle - Jan 30, 2017 6:49:56 pm PST #6452 of 30002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I am engaging with people on Sen. Ted Cruz's post about Sally Yates. It is going about as well as you might expect.


Consuela - Jan 30, 2017 6:59:00 pm PST #6453 of 30002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Gud, I have no idea if it would do any good with your friend, but Andrew Sullivan had an eye-opening and heart-breaking conversation on abortion with women on his blog back in 2009

There has also been a similar series of letters on the Atlantic blog, Notes.


Consuela - Jan 30, 2017 6:59:50 pm PST #6454 of 30002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I knew Yates was going to get canned as soon as I saw her statement. No way Voldemort would stand for that.


Pix - Jan 30, 2017 7:00:13 pm PST #6455 of 30002
The status is NOT quo.

This is an ignorant and fundamentalist twist. Shame on you, Drew. You should be better equipped to disagree, by now.

Sorry, was this meant to be a joke, or were you being sincere? Because I don't think Drew needs to be shamed for sharing his thoughts on a religion he was intimately involved with most of his life. And I can tell you that he's incredibly respectful to the many Christians in his life, including my mother, his cousin who is a Presbyterian minister, and many of our friends.


Consuela - Jan 30, 2017 7:01:18 pm PST #6456 of 30002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Man, today even my apolitical boss expressed some concern. For one thing, we are understaffed and the hiring freeze is interfering with his ability to get work done. This is unacceptable.

I'm having trouble concentrating at work because OMG THE DEMOCRACY IS FALLING. Hard to concentrate on whether we need a permit to install a replacement backup generator on an island in Puget Sound...


msbelle - Jan 30, 2017 7:15:50 pm PST #6457 of 30002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I am too tired to research, but

"In the constitution it says that the president has the right to ban immigration for a period of time in order to protect its citizens by executive order."

That's not right. right?