Oh no, meara, I'm sorry for your friend (and loved ones!).

Much of Christian doctrine is based on the idea that man is inherently flawed and tends towards evil (the fallen nature of man) and can only be saved and made whole through the intervention of God. With this as a core belief, then yes, I can see how a dismal view of humanity at large takes hold.

Despite the fact that I'm a cranky curmudgeon most of the time, I tend to actually believe that humanity leans towards good. As an atheist I trust humanity.

This is an ignorant and fundamentalist twist. Shame on you, Drew. You should be better equipped to disagree, by now.

Hey, JZ, is that you? IJS

When I look at the conservative feed at Blue Feed/Red Feed, I noticed that a good number of articles seem to support the immigration executive order because it upsets liberals rather than the merits of the policy itself. I wonder if the liberal feed was similar while Obama was President. I like to think that wasn't the case, but I don't really know. I don't feel like I hate conservatives, I just don't think their policies will be good for the country. I also have been very disappointed that they defined themselves as against everything Obama rather than articulating their own solutions.

Ugh. I don't even know what to do. I keep alternating between rage and sadness with all the Trump bullshit. It's infuriating the number of people who can't tell the difference between legal immigrants, illegal immigrants and refugees. The number of people saying "Good on Trump for kicking the illegals out" in regards to the Muslim ban is just mind-blowing. (Obviously, illegal immigration isn't cut and dry either, but the fact that it's all the same in these people's minds is just flabbergasting.)

Gud, I have no idea if it would do any good with your friend, but Andrew Sullivan had an eye-opening and heart-breaking conversation on abortion with women on his blog back in 2009: [link]

When I look at the conservative feed at Blue Feed/Red Feed, I noticed that a good number of articles seem to support the immigration executive order because it upsets liberals rather than the merits of the policy itself. I wonder if the liberal feed was similar while Obama was President. I like to think that wasn't the case, but I don't really know. I don't feel like I hate conservatives, I just don't think their policies will be good for the country. I also have been very disappointed that they defined themselves as against everything Obama rather than articulating their own solutions.

I find people being in favor of (or against) something simply because it would make the other side angry to be incredibly infuriating, petty and self-destructive. It pisses me off when anyone does it, regardless of their political leanings.

I don't agree with most conservative views, but I don't hate them as a whole (I have plenty of hate towards certain individuals, though.) I think a lot of their views are short-sighted and wrong, but I believe most (though certainly not all) are legitimately trying to do what they think is best for the country.

On the flip-side, there are certainly liberals who piss me off by starting off with a good point and then somewhere along the line taking off into crazy land and completely undermining themselves. (I feel Michael Moore does this a lot.)

On the flip-side, there are certainly liberals who piss me off by starting off with a good point and then somewhere along the line taking off into crazy land and completely undermining themselves.

Yeah. That's frustrating. The thing that frustrates me the most is when liberals say stuff that isn't true. I'm like, Dude, you don't need to resort to alternative facts to make your case. It doesn't help.

Yeah. That's frustrating. The thing that frustrates me the most is when liberals say stuff that isn't true. I'm like, Dude, you don't need to resort to alternative facts to make your case. It doesn't help.

Exactly. Because now your opponents don't have to counter your real points, they can just discredit you by tearing apart your falsehoods.

I am engaging with people on Sen. Ted Cruz's post about Sally Yates. It is going about as well as you might expect.

Gud, I have no idea if it would do any good with your friend, but Andrew Sullivan had an eye-opening and heart-breaking conversation on abortion with women on his blog back in 2009

There has also been a similar series of letters on the Atlantic blog, Notes.

I knew Yates was going to get canned as soon as I saw her statement. No way Voldemort would stand for that.