Xander: Hey, Red. What you got in the basket, little girl? Buffy: Weapons.

Xander/Buffy ,'Help'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Anne W. - Jan 30, 2017 3:51:44 pm PST #6441 of 30002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I'm wondering if all the flamboyantly horrible shit is being tried now so that they can get through other horrible but less inflammatory stuff with less fuss later because it seems measured and reasonable by comparison.


shrift - Jan 30, 2017 3:58:48 pm PST #6442 of 30002
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I'm going to eat a salad for dinner. Partly because I can't keep eating my feelings or I won't survive very long, and partly because I have lettuce I need to use up. Then I am going to read a book and watch some TV.


Sophia Brooks - Jan 30, 2017 4:14:08 pm PST #6443 of 30002
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Flea, Steph and Hil- do you know you have a tiny baby hippo at your zoo? [link]


msbelle - Jan 30, 2017 4:28:44 pm PST #6444 of 30002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I had spinach lasagna for dinner and then a pint of ice cream and some girl scout cookies. and wine.


Jesse - Jan 30, 2017 4:42:06 pm PST #6445 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh no, meara, I'm sorry for your friend (and loved ones!).


Topic!Cindy - Jan 30, 2017 4:42:59 pm PST #6446 of 30002
What is even happening?

Much of Christian doctrine is based on the idea that man is inherently flawed and tends towards evil (the fallen nature of man) and can only be saved and made whole through the intervention of God. With this as a core belief, then yes, I can see how a dismal view of humanity at large takes hold.

Despite the fact that I'm a cranky curmudgeon most of the time, I tend to actually believe that humanity leans towards good. As an atheist I trust humanity.

This is an ignorant and fundamentalist twist. Shame on you, Drew. You should be better equipped to disagree, by now.

Hey, JZ, is that you? IJS


Gudanov - Jan 30, 2017 5:50:22 pm PST #6447 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

When I look at the conservative feed at Blue Feed/Red Feed, I noticed that a good number of articles seem to support the immigration executive order because it upsets liberals rather than the merits of the policy itself. I wonder if the liberal feed was similar while Obama was President. I like to think that wasn't the case, but I don't really know. I don't feel like I hate conservatives, I just don't think their policies will be good for the country. I also have been very disappointed that they defined themselves as against everything Obama rather than articulating their own solutions.


Kalshane - Jan 30, 2017 5:53:06 pm PST #6448 of 30002
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Ugh. I don't even know what to do. I keep alternating between rage and sadness with all the Trump bullshit. It's infuriating the number of people who can't tell the difference between legal immigrants, illegal immigrants and refugees. The number of people saying "Good on Trump for kicking the illegals out" in regards to the Muslim ban is just mind-blowing. (Obviously, illegal immigration isn't cut and dry either, but the fact that it's all the same in these people's minds is just flabbergasting.)

Gud, I have no idea if it would do any good with your friend, but Andrew Sullivan had an eye-opening and heart-breaking conversation on abortion with women on his blog back in 2009: [link]


Kalshane - Jan 30, 2017 6:00:20 pm PST #6449 of 30002
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

When I look at the conservative feed at Blue Feed/Red Feed, I noticed that a good number of articles seem to support the immigration executive order because it upsets liberals rather than the merits of the policy itself. I wonder if the liberal feed was similar while Obama was President. I like to think that wasn't the case, but I don't really know. I don't feel like I hate conservatives, I just don't think their policies will be good for the country. I also have been very disappointed that they defined themselves as against everything Obama rather than articulating their own solutions.

I find people being in favor of (or against) something simply because it would make the other side angry to be incredibly infuriating, petty and self-destructive. It pisses me off when anyone does it, regardless of their political leanings.

I don't agree with most conservative views, but I don't hate them as a whole (I have plenty of hate towards certain individuals, though.) I think a lot of their views are short-sighted and wrong, but I believe most (though certainly not all) are legitimately trying to do what they think is best for the country.

On the flip-side, there are certainly liberals who piss me off by starting off with a good point and then somewhere along the line taking off into crazy land and completely undermining themselves. (I feel Michael Moore does this a lot.)


Gudanov - Jan 30, 2017 6:32:14 pm PST #6450 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

On the flip-side, there are certainly liberals who piss me off by starting off with a good point and then somewhere along the line taking off into crazy land and completely undermining themselves.

Yeah. That's frustrating. The thing that frustrates me the most is when liberals say stuff that isn't true. I'm like, Dude, you don't need to resort to alternative facts to make your case. It doesn't help.