Hey, man, where are my pants? I have my hippo dignity!

Oz ,'Bring On The Night'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


-t - Sep 26, 2018 6:42:20 am PDT #29946 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Sounds like it could go in Boxed Set?


Toddson - Sep 26, 2018 6:47:25 am PDT #29947 of 30002
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Anyway, I thought this might be kind of an antidote to high school horror stories (assuming it's for real).


Fred Pete - Sep 26, 2018 6:49:05 am PDT #29948 of 30002
Ann, that's a ferret.

he wanted to know, "How come the only people who are apologizing are the other people who were bullied?"

Because they're the ones who understand. And maybe the only ones that even remember.

I don't remember most of the kids that I went to 7th and 8th grade with. (My family moved during the summer after 8th grade, and I went to a different school for 9th grade and on.) Other than the kids I'd known since kindergarten, most of the ones I remember were the bullies.


Maria - Sep 26, 2018 7:17:31 am PDT #29949 of 30002
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

Hil--and anyone else who felt the brunt of "boys will be boys"--I'm sorry that you went through that.

We are really shitty as a species sometimes, and I keep hoping that the good will overcome the bad, but lately I'm thinking not. It's a depressing though to have.


Laura - Sep 26, 2018 7:41:45 am PDT #29950 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.

I keep hoping that the good will overcome the bad, but lately I'm thinking not.

I do retain optimism. Mostly because of my immediate circle. I have a disproportionate number of men in my life, in part because of the male dominated industry I started a business in 30 years ago, in part because I have 2 sons, in part because my husband is a boys basketball coach. The overwhelming majority of these men are equally appalled by the 'boys will be boys' attitude and demonstrate what I consider to be normal and proper behavior with regard to women. I've had conversations with them and they don't consider sexual assault any more normal than I do.

So not to go #notallmen or anything, but I still believe, maybe I have to, that it is a serious minority of men. Particularly with the younger generation. I could be delusional, but I don't think so.


Gudanov - Sep 26, 2018 7:45:04 am PDT #29951 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

So sorry, Hil, that sounds absolutely awful.


DavidS - Sep 26, 2018 7:46:51 am PDT #29952 of 30002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

The Republicans have scheduled a vote for the day after Dr. Ford's testimony.

Looks like Murkowski, Flake or Collins might be swayed by the testimony.


Jesse - Sep 26, 2018 8:10:58 am PDT #29953 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I have another piece of good news -- I had emailed a big boss a question and hadn't gotten an answer, so I casually walked by his office at 12:50, and there he was! Not in a meeting, not eating lunch! Perfect timing!!!


Toddson - Sep 26, 2018 8:24:46 am PDT #29954 of 30002
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

A columnist - a woman - has asked why men aren't outraged by the repeated comments that "boys will be boys" seems to only be applied to boys/men will be sexual harassers, abusers, rapists as a matter of their nature. I know any number of men who aren't ... so why aren't men using the #notallmen hashtag to that effect?


EpicTangent - Sep 26, 2018 8:39:29 am PDT #29955 of 30002
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

he wanted to know, "How come the only people who are apologizing are the other people who were bullied?"

Because too many of the bullies still don't think they were the bullies, 'cuz can't you take a joke?