Wesley: We were fighting on opposite sides, but it was the same war. Fred: but you hated her…didn't you? Wesley: It's not always about holding hands.

'Shells'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Gudanov - Sep 26, 2018 7:45:04 am PDT #29951 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

So sorry, Hil, that sounds absolutely awful.


DavidS - Sep 26, 2018 7:46:51 am PDT #29952 of 30002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

The Republicans have scheduled a vote for the day after Dr. Ford's testimony.

Looks like Murkowski, Flake or Collins might be swayed by the testimony.


Jesse - Sep 26, 2018 8:10:58 am PDT #29953 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I have another piece of good news -- I had emailed a big boss a question and hadn't gotten an answer, so I casually walked by his office at 12:50, and there he was! Not in a meeting, not eating lunch! Perfect timing!!!


Toddson - Sep 26, 2018 8:24:46 am PDT #29954 of 30002
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

A columnist - a woman - has asked why men aren't outraged by the repeated comments that "boys will be boys" seems to only be applied to boys/men will be sexual harassers, abusers, rapists as a matter of their nature. I know any number of men who aren't ... so why aren't men using the #notallmen hashtag to that effect?


EpicTangent - Sep 26, 2018 8:39:29 am PDT #29955 of 30002
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

he wanted to know, "How come the only people who are apologizing are the other people who were bullied?"

Because too many of the bullies still don't think they were the bullies, 'cuz can't you take a joke?


Topic!Cindy - Sep 26, 2018 8:49:24 am PDT #29956 of 30002
What is even happening?

Hil, I don't have words for your history, but thank you for sharing it.


-t - Sep 26, 2018 8:50:10 am PDT #29957 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

In much pettier news, argh, I started listening to The Good Place podcast last night and planned to continue listening all day at work but I switched purses over the weekend and now find myself without headphones. Alas.


Zenkitty - Sep 26, 2018 9:53:57 am PDT #29958 of 30002
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Hil, may everyone who hurt you and hasn't repented fall down and break their kneecaps. You are a strong and brave woman, in spite of them.


JZ - Sep 26, 2018 9:58:36 am PDT #29959 of 30002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Hil, that is absolutely terrible. What utterly shit human beings your classmates were, and how abjectly every single adult at your school failed all of you.


Zenkitty - Sep 26, 2018 10:04:08 am PDT #29960 of 30002
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Sophia, I had a similar experience of high school. Boys my age were not interested in me except to make fun of me, but older men were all about letting me know how sexy I was. Lecherous stares, kissy noises (I still can't stand hearing smacky mouth noises), pats on the butt, lots of inappropriate comments. Starting about age 12. I was naive, sheltered, early to sprout "a womanly figure", and not at all interested in sex. Also I thought I was kinda funny-looking, I never thought of myself as pretty. The mens' behavior bewildered me and made me feel icky. Everyone including my mom regarded it all as compliments. I never felt complimented. My mom had my high school senior photo displayed on her desk, and one man told her that I was "the kind of girl that made him wish he wasn't married". She told me this thinking I'd like it. I always wished I had a skinny figure so men wouldn't pay attention to me.