You all gonna be here when I wake up?

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Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Atropa - Aug 03, 2018 10:01:34 pm PDT #28025 of 30002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

The relationship you and your wife have is now toxic. It doesn't matter that once upon a time it wasn't: it is now. And it's killing you. It's probably not doing her any favors, either.

I want to surround this with blinking lights.

Gud, you aren't defective. And even if you were, so the fuck what? "Defective" people deserve to be loved and treated with kindness. "Defective" people deserve to have their partner treat them with kindness and respect.

You aren't defective. I will repeat this as often as you need to hear it.


Theodosia - Aug 04, 2018 2:09:09 am PDT #28026 of 30002
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Gud, I don't think your wife is a bad person, I think she's not coping correctly with her anxiety and sense of self -- and she's decided that it's =you= who are the trouble and who needs to be corrected, rather than looking to herself and fixing her own behavior/dealing with her anxieties.

And with the low self-esteem you've developed, you're actually NOT helping her, by trying to placate her and make up for her unhappiness when it's actually on her to accept that her husband is sick and needs rest.

You really really need to say NO to going out and doing shopping when you're just out of the hospital, if only because I doubt you're physically up to driving with the sleep deprivation and all. (Antibiotics themselves can do a number on you.)

(Question: does she drive? Is she house-bound unless there's someone to drive her?)

I hate to pile-on here, because I want this to be a supportive place for you, because I think you really really need to hear that you are valued and worthy, and to have fun with your friends. You are a great person and deserve to believe that.


Jesse - Aug 04, 2018 3:25:11 am PDT #28027 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

In addition to everyone's smart and kind words, I'll just add that your wife should be encouraging you to go to therapy, because it's so sad that you feel like this, and you should get people to help you feel better, regardless of the root cause. (I mean, isn't that what your wife wants to be doing for work??)


sj - Aug 04, 2018 5:48:27 am PDT #28028 of 30002
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Very much what Jesse said.


Pix - Aug 04, 2018 7:24:27 am PDT #28029 of 30002
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

[link] Their phone number is 1−800−799−7233.

Please call this hotline when you can and let them know you would like to talk to someone about emotional/physical abuse because a large group of your friends is very concerned you may be suffering it. You don't need to actually go to therapy. Crisis hotlines (with the option to chat, though I would recommend voice) are wonderful.


Sheryl - Aug 04, 2018 9:44:13 am PDT #28030 of 30002
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

What the others said, Gud.


meara - Aug 04, 2018 10:45:45 am PDT #28031 of 30002

Gud, even if were true and she's amazing and you're a screw up, wouldn't therapy help you be better for her?


Dana - Aug 04, 2018 12:07:53 pm PDT #28032 of 30002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I am flailing all over the internet at the news that Patrick Stewart is doing a new Star Trek series ABOUT PICARD on the CBS streaming service.


Beverly - Aug 04, 2018 12:14:00 pm PDT #28033 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

As for keeping therapy a secret--why?

"As you frequently point out, dear, I'm a shitty person. And having tried it your way for a very long time, with me trying to be less shitty and you pointing out how and why and how often I'm shitty, it obviously isn't working. And really, your way, there just isn't any harder I can try.

"So I'm going to see a professional who helps people not to be so shitty. I'd think you would be glad and grateful at my continued pursuit of being less shitty, and would be encouraged by in this plan."


Gudanov - Aug 04, 2018 1:34:55 pm PDT #28034 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

As for keeping therapy a secret--why?

Because she'll get involved and that tends to end badly.

Still getting tired really easily today. Had to take a nap this morning after just going out to get my wife breakfast and hitting up Lowe's get get furnace filters. Then just making up marinade for dinner, cutting up chicken and having lunch wiped me out and I needed an afternoon nap. About ready to take my son out to practice some driving and then make dinner when I get home. I'm hoping I have some after dinner energy left. In the gaps I've been working on software and ripping DVDs for my daughters birthday (the physical DVDs are the gift but she can't really watch them unless they are available on our network digitally). I hope this weakness stuff gets done with soon.

Cool about the Picard thing. That could be good.