I wanna die in bed surrounded by fat grandchildren, but guess that's off the menu.

Jenny ,'Bring On The Night'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Connie Neil - Aug 03, 2018 4:33:05 pm PDT #28012 of 30002
brillig

Gud, crazed killers have fulfilling relationships. You are more than able to have a good one with someone who loves you back.


Dana - Aug 03, 2018 4:47:13 pm PDT #28013 of 30002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

My wife is a good person

Nope. Although, I don't know her, so I guess I can't really say.

But she is not acting like a good person. If she makes you feel this way, then she should know something is wrong, and she should want to fix it. If you want to go to therapy, for example, she should support you, even if she's not willing to attend herself.

She can be mad at you, but she cannot behave in a way that makes you believe you're worthless or broken.


Calli - Aug 03, 2018 4:53:39 pm PDT #28014 of 30002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Gud. I do not for one moment think you are a shitty person. What's more, being diagnosed on the spectrum does not make you defective. I'm deaf in one ear. Sometimes people have to work a little harder to get my attention so I answer their questions or do something they would like me to do. Does that make me defective? Shitty? A bad person who doesn't deserve to have loving, respectful relationships with the people close to me? I hope not.


Nora Deirdre - Aug 03, 2018 5:05:11 pm PDT #28015 of 30002
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

I've been diagnosed with Asperger's twice independently, so I know I'm defective and I hate my wife coming across as a bad person because of my problems. She really isn't. I'm just not good enough.

I can't even.


sj - Aug 03, 2018 5:20:31 pm PDT #28016 of 30002
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Gud, regardless of your wife's intent or what she says to you, thinking the way you do about yourself just isn't good. I try not to comment directly about your wife because I know from personal experience it is possible to feel horrible about yourself and put thoughts on what other people think about us without any intent on their part. This doesn't have to be about your wife but about what you need to start feeling better about yourself.


aurelia - Aug 03, 2018 5:24:44 pm PDT #28017 of 30002
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I'm just not good enough.

As she constantly makes you believe this, she is NOT a good person. Certainly not toward you. You deserve better.


amych - Aug 03, 2018 5:35:37 pm PDT #28018 of 30002
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

YOU. ARE. NOT. DEFECTIVE.


amych - Aug 03, 2018 5:36:07 pm PDT #28019 of 30002
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

(Sorry for the shout. But.)


Steph L. - Aug 03, 2018 5:56:18 pm PDT #28020 of 30002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I don't know about therapy. I feel like I'd have to do it in secret which is hard on my schedule and money really is tight right now

Again, there are places that do sliding-scale payments. And check your insurance -- the copay might be lower than you think. (Mine is $25. I was really surprised at that. And thrilled, because it means that weekly therapy doesn't break the bank.)

I've been diagnosed with Asperger's twice independently, so I know I'm defective

You're not defective. Being on the spectrum doesn't make anyone defective. Ever. It doesn't make you unable to love someone. It doesn't make you unworthy of love.

I hate my wife coming across as a bad person because of my problems.

She doesn't come across as a bad person because of you; she comes across as a bad person because she is abusing you.


DavidS - Aug 03, 2018 6:22:22 pm PDT #28021 of 30002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

My wife is a good person,

She is very definitely NOT a good person. She is in fact a shitty human being who is cruel, verbally abusive (on a daily basis) and (to be honest) lazy and narcissistic.

but I think I've just let her down too many times.

Nope. She flipped out because you were in the hospital instead of DOING HER BIDDING. Because she's a total asshole.

Her business is in the red because (a) she's not doing any of the work (you are); and (b) nobody in their right mind would go to her for counseling.

She's actively abusive. You are the person she is abusing. You know this is true.