Oh, Pacey! You blind idiot. Can't you see she doesn't love you?

Spike ,'Help'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Gudanov - Jun 21, 2018 8:50:25 am PDT #26485 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

It's hard getting motivated when you feel completely worthless.


-t - Jun 21, 2018 8:51:56 am PDT #26486 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I'm sorry, Gud.

Those would be short discussions if I had to have them, Dana.


Beverly - Jun 21, 2018 8:56:26 am PDT #26487 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Koko was such a force for awareness of the depth and breadth of primate--possibly other animals as well--emotional and rational life. I'm sure she was happy in her life, with unusual enrichment, and relationships with her keepers and trainers.

I'm glad we humans had her to teach us.


Beverly - Jun 21, 2018 9:02:13 am PDT #26488 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Also, I'm sorry, Gud.

And yay! for ceiling cat release!


Dana - Jun 21, 2018 9:03:07 am PDT #26489 of 30002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I'm sorry, Gud. You're not worthless.


Scrappy - Jun 21, 2018 9:11:17 am PDT #26490 of 30002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Just remember, Gud, how you FEEL is not the same as what you ARE. It is awful to feel worthless, but you aren't worthless, not to your wife and kids and your friends, and not to those who depend upon your work and not just for your own smart, funny, hard-working and deeply kind self.


Calli - Jun 21, 2018 9:29:43 am PDT #26491 of 30002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

That sucks, Gud. I hope your day has improved.

TIL that there's a bar near me that is like a froyo shop, but for beer, wine, and cider. You get a glass and a bracelet that they link to your credit card. There's a wall of taps. You go to whatever looks interesting and pour however much you want. You get charged by the ounce. If you want to try a splash of cider and follow it up by two ounces of IPA and round it off with a full 8 oz of stout, go for it. The bracelet automatically cuts you off after 32 oz, but you can reload it if the owners think you don't look too blitzed. If localistas are interested, it's [link]


Fred Pete - Jun 21, 2018 9:45:10 am PDT #26492 of 30002
Ann, that's a ferret.

Gud, I think it's time for me to say this: You need to see a therapist. You have been too down on yourself for too long. For a long time, you have been so much harder on yourself than justified by any objective reality.

Please. See a therapist or a med manager (psychiatrist). At the very least, see your regular doctor and try to get some medication to help out.

Please don't do what I did. I had to have a nervous breakdown (and trust me, that's a bit of a euphemism) before I could start turning things around. It's much better to start working on yourself before you get to that point.


-t - Jun 21, 2018 9:54:04 am PDT #26493 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Neat, Calli!


Jessica - Jun 21, 2018 10:14:36 am PDT #26494 of 30002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Those would be short discussions if I had to have them, Dana.

(a) HELL NO and (b) ALSO HELL NO WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK NO t /conversation

Gud, listen to Scrappy. Her reputation as wise is well-earned.