Mal: So we run. Nandi: I understand, Captain Reynolds. You have your people to think of, same as me. And this ain't your fight. Mal: Don't believe you do understand, Nandi. I said 'we run'. We.

'Heart Of Gold'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - May 12, 2018 11:01:43 am PDT #25162 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

but I would lose my goddamn mind if all I could eat was meat and cheese, with a handful of salad for variation. Also, that sounds like a recipe for nutritional deficiencies.

That is the nutty hardcore version of ketogenic, which I can't just do and raise my eyebrows at. I eat a lot of veggies (roasted cauliflower, om nom nom) and berries along with my meat and cheese.

Okay, I thought keto allowed more non-starchy veggies than just a handful of greens, and allowed some fruit. Because my brother did keto for a while and mentioned eating keto pumpkin pie, yum.

Well, my friend says she loves the diet, so as long as she doesn't get scurvy, good for her.


Steph L. - May 12, 2018 11:02:15 am PDT #25163 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

She just thought her parents were horrible people, not people who had suffered horrors.

I mean, both can be true.


Connie Neil - May 12, 2018 11:09:45 am PDT #25164 of 30002
brillig

I mean, both can be true.

She did say that just because she understood them, she didn't forgive them for everything.


P.M. Marc - May 12, 2018 2:38:40 pm PDT #25165 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Keto when you're actually in full-on ketosis at all times is a lot more restricted than what a lot of what's called keto these days, is. Not even a huge amount of protein in that.


aurelia - May 12, 2018 5:59:46 pm PDT #25166 of 30002
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Oh, Amazon. I've recently purchased a couple of Tana French novels and I just looked up the series boxed set of Orphan Black. The "related items" Amazon is now showing me are a whole lot of knives. That's dark, man.


sj - May 12, 2018 6:07:46 pm PDT #25167 of 30002
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Ha, aurelia! That's kind of awesome.


meara - May 12, 2018 6:13:43 pm PDT #25168 of 30002

Omg aurelia I love that


Sophia Brooks - May 13, 2018 1:57:51 am PDT #25169 of 30002
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I do ket o for the diabetes, but I do eat veggies, although not a lot of them at a time and always with lots of fat. Cauliflower, broccoli, spinach, peppers, cucumbers, zucchini are the mainstays for me.

I stumbled upon it searching for something to eat that didn't raise my blood sugar (I test 2 hours after every meanl). I wouldn't recommended as a lifestyle of a weight loss diet because it is too restrictive if you don't want to cook. Also, to stay in ketosis you sort of have to obsessively track your food intake, which is annoying, but I was doing it anyway for The diabetes, which is how I realized that it I ate a lot of fat, my blood sugar didn't spike.

The challenge is trying to eat enough fat to keep your macros right, and I am having some trouble right now because I've gone off eggs and bacon. Oddly, my cholesterol went from very high to normal.

I have a weird relationship with ket o because it really does help me, and I am glad there are all the resources, but I hate talking about diets and weight loss which has been a challenge, since I visibility weight. I was a fat acceptance girl in my mind, so losing weight felt like betraying my ideals but I am so much less tired. Like, I just thought it was normal to get home from work and pretty much to go sleep. But that wasn't the keto, it was just not having blood sugar in the 300s all the time. Also, I hate being small, I feel like a who in Horton Hears a Who No one sees me or hears me. I don't take up space in the world.

To sum up, I don't think keto is for everyone, but if you are careful about nutrition and have certain health issues it is helpful- I think Atropa does it for different issues. Definitely not for everyone, and as I said I am in a bit of a crisis since I let myself have some potato chips- I don't do moderation I think since I am done with theater for the year.

In terms of greens, when I go out I tend to get a salad with steak or a hamburger, and hopefully avocado and blue cheese. It looks like I don't like veggoies, but I just don't like salad and most restaurants don't serve things on cooked spinach or cauliflower, so it s the best option.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 13, 2018 4:26:39 am PDT #25170 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Meat, cheese, and a handful of greens sounds like induction-phase Atkins before the diet allows you to start escalating carbs back up to a break-even plateau. I can handle it for a few weeks since the meat and cheese helps satisfy my craving for savory breads, but it's hell for anyone with a sweet tooth.


Steph L. - May 13, 2018 4:26:40 am PDT #25171 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I don't think keto is for everyone, but if you are careful about nutrition and have certain health issues it is helpful

I have one friend who follows a strict keto diet to prevent seizures. She's also lost about 90 pounds on the diet, but she said that she doesn't want to lose any more weight, so it just means she has to eat more food, as long as it fits her specific keto needs. I believe she said that she hasn't had a seizure in 18 months, which is fantastic for her.