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Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


SuziQ - Nov 10, 2016 6:16:15 pm PST #1807 of 30002
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

I think there needs to be a push to teach girls self-defense so they can take down gropers.

We have been going to a bunch of craft fairs over the last couple of weeks and at every single one there has been a Damsels in Distress booth. They are a MLM that sells self defence tools - alarms, pepper spray, tasers... I've heard about them for a few years, but this is the first time they have been so visible.


sarameg - Nov 10, 2016 6:28:52 pm PST #1808 of 30002

I'm 41 fucking years old and there's google, but I really want to ask instead my ap history teacher, Mr. Smith (fer realz) is there precedence for this re: protests in Baltimore and else post general. Because he was so soothing and fucking honest (it was his voice and demeanor, he told is the awful shit so nice you'd absorb and then erupt in fury.)


aurelia - Nov 10, 2016 8:06:00 pm PST #1809 of 30002
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I kind of want to fight every fight right now.

Yep. I think we need to be relentless in telling our legislators what we want them to do and constantly remind them that their legacy is at stake. Are they actually willing to let the GOP become the White Nationalist party? Cause there's no coming back from that.

I'm trying to figure out how to talk (in a productive way) to people who (probably) voted for him. I really want to send my mother a link to all the day 1 stories of bullying and harassment and ask "Do you still think he's not dangerous?" but she would probably just feel hurt and that's not my goal.

I also want to be prepared for the worst. A resistance movement will need secure communications, right? So I'm trying to learn about that. This is not my skill set.

I also haven't slept much, so we'll see if this still makes sense in a few days.


Fiona - Nov 10, 2016 9:01:22 pm PST #1810 of 30002

I was heartened by this tweetstorm relating a conversation with a co-worker that voted Trump that was reachable and wants to turn around now that she realizes the mistake she made.

Which is exactly the same thing as was reported after Brexit. Many people just protest-voting for the hell of it and being surprised when they won. But everybody has to live with it.

From my outsider perspective, I'd say it's really important the next four years be spent working on voter registration and inclusion, and against gerrymandering. The majority of Americans now does lean towards more liberal measures. That majority has to (be able to) vote.


Consuela - Nov 10, 2016 9:05:07 pm PST #1811 of 30002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

this fucking year!

Yeah, this FUCKING year. Bowie, Prince, and now Cohen. Fuckity. Not to mention all the rest of the shit that has gone down. DAPL, among many other things. Those poor folks must feel so bad: they've been so fucked over by the whites, and now they know that unless Obama does something unprecedented in the next 8 weeks, the Apricot Demagogue will probably send in troops with live ammunition.

And anything Obama does, would just be reversed by the AD anyway.

I was in the city for dinner, and on the way home I ran into two big traffic jams; the first was because the protesters went up onto the freeway again I think. Oy. Good on them, but Trump's tentative pick for DHS thinks that such protests should be "quelled".

... I signed up for a VPN service today. Consider doing that, if you don't already; the NSA/Security state apparatus in the hands of Trump, Gingrich, and Pence does not fill me with complacency.


Theodosia - Nov 11, 2016 2:19:47 am PST #1812 of 30002
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Still angry, still scared here.


Sue - Nov 11, 2016 2:40:58 am PST #1813 of 30002
hip deep in pie

Leonard Cohen passed away on Monday: [link]


Calli - Nov 11, 2016 4:06:14 am PST #1814 of 30002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Zenkitty, there's a petition asking the electoral college to do just that: [link]

It has over 2 million signatures already.

One one hand, I remember how furious I was when that WA elector said he wouldn't cast his vote for HRC even if she won his state. How dare he not respect the process, etc. On the other hand, Trump with nukes.


Kalshane - Nov 11, 2016 4:35:08 am PST #1815 of 30002
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

As disastrous and terrifying as President Trump may be, I think the Electors handing the presidency to Clinton would start an actual civil war.

Paul Ryan is my actual Representative. I'll try to formulate a letter to him this weekend. No idea if he'll listen (and I'm so pissed at him for being so weasely on Trump) but I'd probably have better luck with him than Ron Johnson. I don't think I have to remind Tammy Baldwin of the stakes ahead of us, but I should write her, too.


lisah - Nov 11, 2016 4:40:53 am PST #1816 of 30002
Punishingly Intricate

I kind of want to fight every fight right now.

Same!!!

I did serious, full-force self defense training in my 20s and it is one of the best things I've ever done. It changed my life. I wish every girl could do it.