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Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Oct 02, 2017 4:13:54 am PDT #17293 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I've seen people already (of course) saying "this isn't terrorism", and I assume that it's because the shooter is white.

What is a mass shooting, if not an act of terrorism? Why can't we call it what it is?


Jesse - Oct 02, 2017 4:18:08 am PDT #17294 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Racism is why.

I'm horrified that one person can do that much damage. Could that possibly be the thing that gets people to start limiting the amount of ammo etc. people can own for no reason?


Amy - Oct 02, 2017 4:20:06 am PDT #17295 of 30002
Because books.

And weapons that can be fired from such a distance -- he was on the 32nd floor, for fuck's sake.

Maybe what we need is constant protests and marches outside NRA headquarters. At least to start?


Steph L. - Oct 02, 2017 4:26:20 am PDT #17296 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Could that possibly be the thing that gets people to start limiting the amount of ammo etc. people can own for no reason?

Nope. If schoolchildren being killed in the Sandy Hook shooting didn't lead to any measure of gun control, there is literally nothing that will. Because politicians are bought by the NRA, and they value guns more than they value human life.


Laura - Oct 02, 2017 4:35:37 am PDT #17297 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.

and they value guns more than they value human life.

And this is why I have no regrets removing my gun loving relatives and friends from FB. I don't want to hear their excuses and justifications. My chest is tight with sorrow. I should turn off the TV, and yet.

In much more amusing news, it was 30 here overnight and still in the 30s now at 9:30. DH just called me from the road to announce that he discovered that the steering wheel and seat heating features of his truck work like a charm. He had never used them before!


Gudanov - Oct 02, 2017 4:36:58 am PDT #17298 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

I don't know that this can be labeled as terrorism yet. Terrorism depends on the motivation and there isn't any information on the motivation yet. There's an awfully good chance it was terrorism, but I don't think a definitive judgement is possible until the information comes in.

I'm pretty sure nothing will happen on the gun control front. Hell, we'll probably have representatives saying that people should be allowed to own RPGs so they can take out snipers.


Dana - Oct 02, 2017 4:39:54 am PDT #17299 of 30002
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

Jesus. I had something flippant to say about something else, but it's gone now.


Jesse - Oct 02, 2017 4:42:05 am PDT #17300 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Nope. If schoolchildren being killed in the Sandy Hook shooting didn't lead to any measure of gun control, there is literally nothing that will. Because politicians are bought by the NRA, and they value guns more than they value human life.

I know you're right.

Hell, we'll probably have representatives saying that people should be allowed to own RPGs so they can take out snipers.

Oh yeah, if only more of those Jason Aldean fans had been carrying surface-to-air missiles with them!


Gudanov - Oct 02, 2017 4:45:26 am PDT #17301 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

The NRA has won so completely that the debate isn't whether people should be able to own guns, but stuff like making sure people can take an assault rifle to the grocery store or passing laws making it easier to legally kill people.


Dana - Oct 02, 2017 4:52:22 am PDT #17302 of 30002
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

I don't know what to do. What can we possibly do?