On my seventh birthday, I wanted a toy fire truck, and I didn't get it, and you were real nice about it, and then the house next door burnt down, and then real firetrucks came, and for years I thought you set the fire for me. And if you did, you can tell me!

Xander ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sue - Oct 01, 2017 6:14:26 pm PDT #17284 of 30002
hip deep in pie

Dana, that sounds like heaven. I probably would have walked out of there with a dog or two. I love Great Pyrenees.


Gudanov - Oct 01, 2017 7:19:07 pm PDT #17285 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

Unfortunately, the people who voted for him don't realize that Puerto Rico is part of the United States.

They way they talk about Puerto Rico makes it sound like it's some sort of remote primitive backwater which is crazy. There are multiple airports capable of handling large aircraft. Load C-5s and C-17s at multiple bases in the Southeast. Have them fly to Homestead and maybe another base in Florida to top off. Then fly into a Puerto Rico airport (they don't have to refuel there, they have the range) unload and head back to a base for reloading. You might need some KC-135s in the air to refuel the returning aircraft, but they will be flying light and won't have far to travel so you wouldn't need a massive fleet of tankers. They need a team in the White House that can just tell people to make it happen, like the Obama Administration did during Hurricane Sandy.


Consuela - Oct 01, 2017 7:21:29 pm PDT #17286 of 30002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I went whale-watching today (delayed birthday event for my niece, whose father passed on her actual birthday), and was one of the few in our group who did not barf on the boat. Yay for lots of preventive dramamine, and staring fixedly at a mountaintop on the horizon for most of the ride. We also did see whales, and a shark, and sea lions, and sea otters! So that was nice.

Trying to decide holiday plans when most of the participants are still wracked with grief is kind of difficult. Argh.


Laura - Oct 02, 2017 2:26:38 am PDT #17287 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.

Exactly, Gud. It could have been and still can be handled properly, but they really don't care. It is just heartbreaking.

That sounds wonderful, Consuela! Also, yay for dramamine.

I need to turn off the live coverage from Vegas. It is making me hate humans.


Jesse - Oct 02, 2017 2:38:53 am PDT #17288 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'm so sorry for your niece, Consuela. Relatedly, my mother thinks my father is declining, and one of my first thoughts was, "He better not die over Christmas." So, um, if anyone has control over that kind of thing?


Gudanov - Oct 02, 2017 3:50:03 am PDT #17289 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

Gads, the news from Vegas is just horrible. Sounds like it was just the one guy that did all that.


Amy - Oct 02, 2017 4:00:03 am PDT #17290 of 30002
Because books.

What the hell, world? Fifty people dead? I'm sitting here speechless.


Laura - Oct 02, 2017 4:05:38 am PDT #17291 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.

I just sit here and think of the countless loved ones whose lives are changed forever because of a lunatic with automatic weapons. So horrifying.


Amy - Oct 02, 2017 4:07:46 am PDT #17292 of 30002
Because books.

Exactly. Plus the fact that *this* is terrorism. And we're apparently not only breeding them but happily arming them.


Steph L. - Oct 02, 2017 4:13:54 am PDT #17293 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I've seen people already (of course) saying "this isn't terrorism", and I assume that it's because the shooter is white.

What is a mass shooting, if not an act of terrorism? Why can't we call it what it is?