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Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Jun 21, 2017 4:07:58 am PDT #12891 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Happy birthday, Epic!!

Yeah, I listened to and read some of the learned analysis, but I was left thinking that throwing tons of money at these elections really only serves to make television watching annoying and mailboxes full but changes nothing.

That's what I was thinking! Maybe take that money and use it for actual ground organizing and GOTV.


Laura - Jun 21, 2017 4:24:37 am PDT #12892 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.

Exactly, Jesse. And fighting voter suppression efforts.


Jesse - Jun 21, 2017 5:01:30 am PDT #12893 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

YES.


Jesse - Jun 21, 2017 5:15:47 am PDT #12894 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

ION, I only had to have conversations with two people about why I think their 3 rating is actually good, when they were terribly insulted by it.


tommyrot - Jun 21, 2017 5:33:59 am PDT #12895 of 30002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Hi everyone. Been depressed for awhile after my aunt's death, and terribly stressed by the job search thing. Like, the most stressed out I've been in years....

So I'm sorry to skip 1000 posts and show up with a question, but... should I tell a recruiter what my minimum salary requirement is? I told a recruiter yesterday I'd get back to him with a minimum salary number, but I've since read that's a bad idea.

Because the recruiter works for the company doing the hiring, they could just pass that info to the hiring company, giving them a big advantage in salary negotiations.

If I don't give him a minimum salary, what should I say?

The recruiter says the company with the job I'm interested in hasn't posted what the salary range would be, which is why he wants my minimum salary requirement (and my preferred salary).


Jesse - Jun 21, 2017 5:56:48 am PDT #12896 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'd give your preferred number as your minimum and go up from there. Don't low-ball yourself!


Connie Neil - Jun 21, 2017 5:57:40 am PDT #12897 of 30002
brillig

Is the minimum a negotiation point or set in stone with a laser-grid defense system and highly trained attack geese?


Consuela - Jun 21, 2017 5:58:11 am PDT #12898 of 30002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Tommy, Ask A Manager always says not to tell your salary history, because the salary of any given job should be based on that job's skill and requirements, not the applicant's history. You might look at her archives for how to navigate this.


tommyrot - Jun 21, 2017 6:05:09 am PDT #12899 of 30002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Thanks for the advice, guys!

eta:

Of course, without thinking, I told the guy my current salary yesterday. But my current salary (at least before my pay cut) was pretty high, because my boss almost always contributes the maximum amount to his retirement account that is tax deductible, and he's required to contribute the same percentage to me, so I've been getting a lot of my compensation that way.

(I've never used a recruiter before. Must be more careful.)


tommyrot - Jun 21, 2017 6:14:04 am PDT #12900 of 30002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Is the minimum a negotiation point or set in stone with a laser-grid defense system and highly trained attack geese?

Oh no, the attack geese! One more thing to be stressed about. :)