I'm not evil again. Why does everyone think that?

Angel ,'Sleeper'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


msbelle - May 10, 2017 6:28:51 pm PDT #11203 of 30002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I caught up on lots of tv: Elementary, Grey's, Criminal Minds, and almost caught up on AoS.

Still have a lot I am behind on.


Consuela - May 10, 2017 7:20:53 pm PDT #11204 of 30002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Just emailed a car dealer & told them what I wanted and what I was willing to pay. Attached a printout from Consumer Reports. Yikes.

Why can't I buy a car the way I buy a book?


NoiseDesign - May 10, 2017 9:46:27 pm PDT #11205 of 30002
Our wings are not tired

Now if I can just find one from 2010+, with all wheel drive and manual transmission. Is that so much to ask?

Options to look at are the Jeep Renegade, Jeep Compass, Jeep Patriot, Mini Countryman, Subaru Crosstrek, and Subaru Forester. All of those were available with AWD and a manual transmission. They didn't sell that combo in huge numbers, but they were available, so you may be able to find one.


NoiseDesign - May 10, 2017 10:02:08 pm PDT #11206 of 30002
Our wings are not tired

Here are a few Jeep Patriots in your area. They weren't the most popular Jeep model, but it means you can get some good deals on low mileage models.

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Theodosia - May 11, 2017 12:23:49 am PDT #11207 of 30002
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Ooooh, Drew! I wasn't thinking Jeep (and I cringe just a little at the 'Patriot' moniker, Because) but pursuing an opposite-to-the-herd strategy (thinking outside the car-box) might be helpful indeed.


hippocampus - May 11, 2017 3:35:51 am PDT #11208 of 30002
not your mom's socks.

much ~ma for Daniel's mom


Laura - May 11, 2017 3:59:38 am PDT #11209 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.

Oh, Scrappy! So happy to read this. You did so much to make the place warm and appealing. Good to see it pay off.


Gudanov - May 11, 2017 4:08:56 am PDT #11210 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

A Suzuki SX4 might be a possibility. It's a bit of an oddball, but they weren't very expensive even when new.


Gudanov - May 11, 2017 4:11:31 am PDT #11211 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

The problem with 4WD and a manual is that a lot of little SUVs provided a front-wheel drive only model with a manual, but not a 4WD manual. The FWD manual is really more of a marketing thing than a model they expect to actually sell so even they are rare.


Gudanov - May 11, 2017 4:14:11 am PDT #11212 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

Of course, there's this car.

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