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Shoot, you can tell how little attention I've paid to the recent Star Whatever movies.
Beyond was a fun space adventure, but it wasn't anything more. I really like Cumberbatch and I liked his turn as KHHHAAAANNNN, but Star Trek is more than pretty and boom.
I saw the first STLD episode; it was okay, although I kind of wish they'd actually focus on non-officers. There are plenty of enlisted people in Star Fleet, why not show them for once?
The only enlisted person we really ever got to spend time with was Chief O'Brien, and he's a warrant officer. (Which basically means he's still an officer but he came up through the ranks rather than getting a degree at the Academy. But he's still considered an officer.)
JJA should've done Star Wars instead.
He should abso-fucking-lutely NOT have done Star Wars.
Signed,
Still mad about Rise of Skywalker. (Force Awakens was fine.)
That sounds like a recipe for disaster. Or rampant charges of mutiny.
Also ludicrous. Everyone knows it's the non-coms who actually get shit done.
Yeah, I don't know if O'Brien's rank was ever mentioned on TNG, but I'm pretty sure he was wearing Lieutenant (junior grade) pips on his uniform for his appearances. Once they moved him over to DS9 they started addressing him as a Chief Petty Officer and eventually switched out his pips for a different rank insignia.
ETA: I was off. He actually has full lieutenant pips on his collar in TNG and apparently Riker even calls him "Lieutenant" in an episode.
I think enlisted didn't start showing up onscreen until either after Roddenberry died or at least once he stepped away from directly running the show
Signed,
Still mad about Rise of Skywalker. (Force Awakens was fine.)
I still haven't seen RoS, because I just can't be that mad at something fictional these days, and I know I would be. I actually had to try to explain to M the other day why some Star Wars fans don't like RoS, and there might have been some incoherent gesturing.
I think enlisted didn't start showing up onscreen until either after Roddenberry died or at least once he stepped away from directly running the show
So all those guys in red shirts who got killed in the beginning of the show were officers? Guess that would explain why Starfleet would have been all officers ....
Still haven't seen RoS either.