I just think it's rather odd that a nation that prides itself on its virility should feel compelled to strap on forty pounds of protective gear just in order to play rugby.

Giles ,'Beneath You'


Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Liese S. - Sep 03, 2015 1:14:42 pm PDT #4734 of 30003
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I think brenda has the heart of it here.


Calli - Sep 03, 2015 1:20:48 pm PDT #4735 of 30003
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Health~ma to your mom, DC.

Well put, brenda.

Maria, I hope your cat's diagnosis is something manageable.


Burrell - Sep 03, 2015 3:20:26 pm PDT #4736 of 30003
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

brenda's point is very valid. I also think that the rhetorical positioning of white allies as explicitly and expressly marginal voices in the movement is pretty effective at making its own point about the power gained by marginalizing others. And I'd say that the message is primarily aimed at POC, not whites.

Relatedly, this seems like a good time for me, hippy dippy white liberal that I am, to 'fess up to the fact that I dislike and resist the term "ally." I'm okay with other people using it to label me, but I don't want to label myself that way. I'm just going to continue to be who I am, and to raise my voice where I think it's appropriate for me to raise it, and raise my kids with the values I believe in. I've spent a long time thinking about why it bothers me, and I think it comes down to the way it overtly maps the language of war onto other kinds of interactions and exchanges. Sure, okay, in an explicitly political interaction I will overtly position myself as an ally, but in day to day interactions, I don't want to be burdened with the imagery of war and conflict.


Zenkitty - Sep 03, 2015 3:20:45 pm PDT #4737 of 30003
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Suzi, that's a great vote of confidence, and yet, why would you want a position he's just described as horribly frustrating.

Ginger, stay safe, okay. That's too close.

Matt, no, it isn't wrong at all. Totally understandable.

eta wrote the above hours ago and just hit Post.

brenda, well said, and Burrell, thanks for articulating why the word "ally" feels uncomfortable.

Sympathy and fist bumps to those feeling overwhelmed. I'm taking vacation next week, and although I've worked overtime this week (and last, and the week before...) to get ready, work is still not ready for me to be away for five whole days. I don't know what I'm going to come back to, but I need those days away.


Jesse - Sep 03, 2015 3:22:22 pm PDT #4738 of 30003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

YES, brenda. Thank you.


brenda m - Sep 03, 2015 3:36:38 pm PDT #4739 of 30003
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

to 'fess up to the fact that I dislike and resist the term "ally."

Oh lord, yes. Along with the points you made, it positions allies as separate - it's not our issue, you know, we're just good people who ally with you.


Connie Neil - Sep 03, 2015 3:37:20 pm PDT #4740 of 30003
brillig

I like the term "decent human being" in place of "ally."


brenda m - Sep 03, 2015 3:42:04 pm PDT #4741 of 30003
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Totally unrelated, I could use some hire~ma. We've been understaffed for so long, and had a couple of really good candidates fall through. I've got a guy know who really wants to join the firm, passed all interviews to date with flying colors, and would just be really great.

I've just reached out to Person Most Likely to Scuttle All This to offer her the opportunity to interview him as well. Because I kind of have to. But I'm really hoping she doesn't want to take the time.


Maria - Sep 03, 2015 3:48:03 pm PDT #4742 of 30003
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

Thanks, everyone. I was trying to articulate this, and failing miserably. I still feel like a lousy human being though, even asking the question.

Thank you all for answering me honestly.

______

Just got a call from the vet. She has a UTI and chronic kidney disease, so tomorrow she gets a long-lasting antibiotic shot and I learn how to give sub-q fluids. Initially, she'll be on a MWF schedule. He also talked about a low-protein diet and prescription food. I'm wary of vets and recommending food, so if anyone has any input, I'd greatly appreciate it.


brenda m - Sep 03, 2015 3:49:09 pm PDT #4743 of 30003
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Andi will be your best resource.

Kitty~ma, and life~ma for all the other crap going on. You've been on my mind but I'm sorry I haven't said anything.