And Kaylee, what the hell's goin' on in the engine room? Were there monkeys? Some terrifying space monkeys maybe got loose?

Mal ,'The Train Job'


Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Jul 28, 2016 8:10:12 pm PDT #25225 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Bush came across as very affable and stayed on message.

Trump has thus far proven he is neither affable or able to stay on message.


Connie Neil - Jul 28, 2016 8:17:38 pm PDT #25226 of 30003
brillig

Trump has thus far proven he is neither affable or able to stay on message.

He's going to smirk and say something borderline misogynistic, and Hillary is going to smile faintly and throw out a contradictory fact, and Trump will stumble. Break his rhythm, and by the end of the hour he'll be fuming.


billytea - Jul 28, 2016 9:39:25 pm PDT #25227 of 30003
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Trump has thus far proven he is neither affable or able to stay on message.

Ok, so when I look at Trump's convention bump (and seriously, how do you get a bump for a convention like that), I'm mostly comforted by the thought that Hillary has two aces up her sleeve. (The Republicans have one too, namely their egregious voter suppression efforts.)

First ace is that Hillary has an actual campaign operation. She has a GOTV operation. She has a voter database. Trump has a Twitter account. That disparity counts for something come election day.

The second ace is this right there. Trump can't stay on message. The Democrats' convention deserves a good bump, it was well crafted and on message, and it had some killer speeches. But now we won't be able to disentangle any bump from the hit on Trump for inviting Russia to subvert the election. It's safe to say that won't be the last time he puts his foot in it.

(There's potentially a third ace: Clinton has enthusiastic and credible surrogates who are fully on board with advocating for her, most notably the President. Conversely, my favourite line about the two conventions was "Trump brought Scott Baio to a Meryl Streep fight".)


Laura - Jul 29, 2016 2:17:06 am PDT #25228 of 30003
Our wings are not tired.

The Democrats' convention deserves a good bump, it was well crafted and on message, and it had some killer speeches.

In anticipating the conventions I expected much more out of Trump. I thought that creating a television production might be a place where he had real experience. It was a pure delight to see what I thought was a significant difference in the overall quality of the showbiz. Well the speaker list of course, the quality of the videos, the music and entertainment.

That said, the bottom line for this old lady who voted for the first time 44 years ago - we have the best candidate and she is a woman. My estrogen is bubbling over with joy. I've always voted for the person I felt was the best choice and it is a big damn deal for me to have it be the woman this time around.


Jesse - Jul 29, 2016 3:17:00 am PDT #25229 of 30003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

In non-political news, I finally remembered to go to the supermarket near my office to buy soda, and it is even cheaper than I realized! I've been paying $2 a pop (by which I mean each, not the wrong name for soda), and this was $4.50 for a six-pack! AND I got two plastic bags, because they still have them in Boston, unlike in Cambridge, where I do most of my shopping. So I can go to CVS after work, even though I forgot my reusable bag!

Everything is coming up Jesse.


Gudanov - Jul 29, 2016 4:39:35 am PDT #25230 of 30003
Coding and Sleeping

Awesome news, Jesse!

I wasn't claiming Trump is affable and stays on message, just that it's not the qualities you'd think would make someone shine in a debate are the ones that end up mattering.

I also can't wait to hear who will be playing the role of Trump in Hillary's debate prep. I know that's horrifically dorky, but I really want to know.

First ace is that Hillary has an actual campaign operation.

Yeah, her operation is an order of magnitude more sophisticated than what Trump faced from any of his Republican opponents.


Dana - Jul 29, 2016 4:48:17 am PDT #25231 of 30003
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Someone on Twitter pointed out that Trump noped out of the debates as soon as it got down to three or four people, so he doesn't really have an experience with that.


Gudanov - Jul 29, 2016 4:52:05 am PDT #25232 of 30003
Coding and Sleeping

That's true. I hadn't thought of that.


Gudanov - Jul 29, 2016 4:56:15 am PDT #25233 of 30003
Coding and Sleeping

It's been a really crappy week. I don't wanna work, I just want to tweet lines from Hamilton all day.


askye - Jul 29, 2016 4:57:10 am PDT #25234 of 30003
Thrive to spite them

Trump has the disadvantage of debating a woman.

He's such a mysognist and I have to assume it's got to eat at him some that he has to go up against a woman. Either that or he'll be even more over confident.

But what little I saw of him at the DNC he managed to stay on point for 2 sentences before rambling or at least not able to stay modulated. There's a difference in how he raises his voice and what politicians do.

You never know what will happen.