I'll be fine. I'll be your bounty, Jubal Early. And I'll just fade away.

River ,'Objects In Space'


Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Jun 15, 2016 4:32:10 am PDT #23085 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I am lucky in that my family either seems to get grey hair at 25 or at 65/70. SInce I am 42, I think I will have 20 more years of brown hair.

My brother started getting silver hairs in his 30s, but that was while he was setting new records for alcoholism. Before he quit drinking, his hair was straight. After he quit, his hair started getting wavy. His theory is that when he stopped destroying his liver, it let his body do things other than triage to keep him alive.

And now he shaves his head, so I have no idea if he has silver, though his beard seems to have some silver. I don't remember what age my parents started to go grey (actually, my dad's hair is a gorgeous white that I would LOVE), so I don't know when mine will go grey/silver/white. But since I'm going to be 45 in 8 days (shop now! shop now! shop now!) and I don't have any grey/white/silver, it may not happen until I'm older than dirt.

Or I'll be one of those people who (apocryphally) wake up one day with all their hair turned white. That would probably be okay, too.

The transition from blond seems to go first to dark then very slowly to grey.

My hair is so dark blonde that I've started getting highlights at least once a year. I just like looking beachy.


Jesse - Jun 15, 2016 4:37:23 am PDT #23086 of 30003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

My dad hated is grey facial hair, but didn't have any issue with his head turning grey.

That's funny! My father had a white beard years before he had any grey on his head, which made people think he dyed his hair. And made my mother try to get him to dye the beard, to no avail.


Maria - Jun 15, 2016 4:54:15 am PDT #23087 of 30003
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

Oh Dana, I hope today is better!

msbelle, I'm sorry for all of the drama. I wish there was an easy way to get mac to see the light.

Sophia, it's absolutely a legitimate rant. I've stopped engaging with people on FB about it. It's better for my mental health to ignore it. I will never change their minds.

I started going grey at 18. At this point I'm about 80-85% grey. I get my hair colored every 4 weeks, and I've gone much lighter because my roots were really starting to get noticeable. Now it's a little better.


Jesse - Jun 15, 2016 4:56:13 am PDT #23088 of 30003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I got to the office early, got a bunch of little things done, and now I feel like I've done enough for the day, or at least it should be lunch time by now. Oops. I did decide I can have lunch early, because it's the bake-off/baby shower this afternoon, but not THIS early!


billytea - Jun 15, 2016 5:15:00 am PDT #23089 of 30003
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I have a sort of rant this morning, and it probably isn't going to sound like a rant, because I am not a generally vitriolic person, but this Orlando/gun control thing is driving me NUTS.

I wish to subscribe to your rant, Sophia. I have a friend from playing D&D in Philly who's a gun nut, and I just can't. Granted, his first post on the tragedy was urging people to give blood. But since then, his bonnet is wide open and the bees are swarming. (Including, aside from the usual, a bit about militarising the police force, and a declaration before any evidence was in that it was clearly Islamic extremist terrorism.)

And of course he thinks he's being rational, but he's pretty obviously starting from the conclusion and working back. ("Here's the evidence it's IS terrorism!" "Wait, that doesn't say what you claimed." "Lack of clear evidence is exactly what you'd expect from modern terrorism!")

The belittling of any other viewpoint is getting wearing. And in the wake of Orlando I just can't.


Jesse - Jun 15, 2016 5:18:39 am PDT #23090 of 30003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Getting caught up in what is or isn't "proper" terrorism really makes me nuts. Can we focus on the MASS MURDER of doubly-marginalized people, please??


Maria - Jun 15, 2016 5:24:46 am PDT #23091 of 30003
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

Getting caught up in what is or isn't "proper" terrorism really makes me nuts. Can we focus on the MASS MURDER of doubly-marginalized people, please??

THIS. The fact that he is Muslim trumps everything else. ISIS. Radical Islam. Kill 'em all. The victims don't matter. And that is heinous.


Steph L. - Jun 15, 2016 5:27:02 am PDT #23092 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

If he were white, he'd be labelled "mentally ill," which is really no better. Why can't we stick with "angry homicidal bigot" and leave it at that?


msbelle - Jun 15, 2016 5:29:56 am PDT #23093 of 30003
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

The second level managers at my office are really pretty shitty on the people management front. Their people are slack on many things and they never hold them to better standards or even speak to them about these things until the boss tells them to. I have to remind myself to stay in my lane.

Today we had a job that was supposed to start at 7am and while we had people in site our material was not there. The customer calls us 2 hours after the job was supposed to start wondering what is the issue and no one in the office knows about it. Employees on site did call their manager and he is in the field and he either did nothing or he only called the supplier. The supplier is OUR COMPANY just another location, they are supposed to let us know if deliveries are late. Totally bad management.


Gudanov - Jun 15, 2016 5:31:43 am PDT #23094 of 30003
Coding and Sleeping

Was it a terrorist attack, a hate crime, or an unhinged individual who went off? So far it's looking like yes.