Mal: You want to tell me how come there's a statue of you here looking at me like I owe him something? Jayne: Wishing I could, Captain.

'Jaynestown'


Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Jun 15, 2016 5:18:39 am PDT #23090 of 30003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Getting caught up in what is or isn't "proper" terrorism really makes me nuts. Can we focus on the MASS MURDER of doubly-marginalized people, please??


Maria - Jun 15, 2016 5:24:46 am PDT #23091 of 30003
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

Getting caught up in what is or isn't "proper" terrorism really makes me nuts. Can we focus on the MASS MURDER of doubly-marginalized people, please??

THIS. The fact that he is Muslim trumps everything else. ISIS. Radical Islam. Kill 'em all. The victims don't matter. And that is heinous.


Steph L. - Jun 15, 2016 5:27:02 am PDT #23092 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

If he were white, he'd be labelled "mentally ill," which is really no better. Why can't we stick with "angry homicidal bigot" and leave it at that?


msbelle - Jun 15, 2016 5:29:56 am PDT #23093 of 30003
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

The second level managers at my office are really pretty shitty on the people management front. Their people are slack on many things and they never hold them to better standards or even speak to them about these things until the boss tells them to. I have to remind myself to stay in my lane.

Today we had a job that was supposed to start at 7am and while we had people in site our material was not there. The customer calls us 2 hours after the job was supposed to start wondering what is the issue and no one in the office knows about it. Employees on site did call their manager and he is in the field and he either did nothing or he only called the supplier. The supplier is OUR COMPANY just another location, they are supposed to let us know if deliveries are late. Totally bad management.


Gudanov - Jun 15, 2016 5:31:43 am PDT #23094 of 30003
Coding and Sleeping

Was it a terrorist attack, a hate crime, or an unhinged individual who went off? So far it's looking like yes.


Dana - Jun 15, 2016 5:36:57 am PDT #23095 of 30003
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I am really failing to be interested in this conference call. I blame it for not being interesting.


billytea - Jun 15, 2016 5:40:23 am PDT #23096 of 30003
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

THIS. The fact that he is Muslim trumps everything else. ISIS. Radical Islam. Kill 'em all. The victims don't matter. And that is heinous.

Yeah. That's what particularly disturbs me about my friend's singular focus on that one angle. It doesn't feel like telling it like it is. It feels like he's erasing the fact that it was a homophobic hate crime, and that it's a mass shooting, one of the hundreds that have occurred since Sandy Hook (of which there are all of two that let one bring up Islamic State).

And I only know what's been reported, but to me the shooter's allegiance to IS (and apparently Hezbollah and al Nusra before that, never mind they're all at war with each other) seems very much like an afterthought to the self-loathing and toxic, violent masculinity. Fixating on Omar Mateen's religion might be the least relevant aspect.


Jesse - Jun 15, 2016 5:44:30 am PDT #23097 of 30003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Was it a terrorist attack, a hate crime, or an unhinged individual who went off? So far it's looking like yes.

Yeah, that.

And I only know what's been reported, but to me the shooter's allegiance to IS (and apparently Hezbollah and al Nusra before that, never mind they're all at war with each other) seems very much like an afterthought to the self-loathing and toxic, violent masculinity. Fixating on Omar Mateen's religion might be the least relevant aspect.

Also that.

Also what about all of the Christian mass murderers?

Argh.


Dana - Jun 15, 2016 5:45:27 am PDT #23098 of 30003
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Also what about all of the Christian mass murderers?

Oh, if only we could treat mental illness/keep those people off the street.


Gudanov - Jun 15, 2016 5:47:59 am PDT #23099 of 30003
Coding and Sleeping

It's a good rant Sophia.