You can try and persuade, but adults get to make their own choices. It is one of the few damn pluses of being an adult!
Yep. I can try to persuade my Dad to eat a goddamn vegetable once in a while, but in the end I can't force him to do anything.
Kaylee: So, uh, how come you don't care where you're going? Book: 'Cause how you get there is the worthier part.
'Serenity'
Natter 74: Ready or Not
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
shrift - Jun 02, 2016 6:30:45 pm PDT #22431 of 30003
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty
beth b - Jun 02, 2016 6:38:19 pm PDT #22432 of 30003
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!
the fitbit thing is sketchy -- but the vaction thing is way out of line . He hates the car ride and is uncomfortable. he can't deal with stairs . no way no how is that a vacation
DavidS - Jun 02, 2016 7:06:00 pm PDT #22433 of 30003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
In an attempt to not completely alienate my Trumpster friends
You're way more open minded then me. I don't think I could consider anybody supporting Trump to be a friend. He's not just the presumptive Republican candidate (which I could handle) - he's a genuinely dangerous man.
Pix - Jun 02, 2016 8:23:59 pm PDT #22434 of 30003
The status is NOT quo.
We are leaving for France in two weeks, a trip we've saved for for two years and I've dreamed of since I was in 7th grade.
Current events in France:
...ok, then.
But it's ALL GOING TO BE GOOD. Because vacation! France! And 2016 owes us.
Scrappy - Jun 02, 2016 9:19:05 pm PDT #22435 of 30003
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
Tippy- I can understand them bullying him IF he always has a fantastic time on vacation and will be very sad to miss it. it's still disrespectful behavior, but in that case the motivation makes sense. If that's the case and if they want to bully him--then they certainly have to drive him. I can see why you are angry, though! I would be.
Steph L. - Jun 03, 2016 3:23:45 am PDT #22436 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
I can understand them bullying him IF he always has a fantastic time on vacation and will be very sad to miss it.
He enjoys being with the family regardless of the setting -- but he also is intolerable on the car ride to the beach and back; he's fussy and out of sorts the whole week because things are different from his house; he can't walk up and down stairs any more (and this house has 3 flights of stairs); and he complains the whole time about everything. The last time we all went to Topsail, he didn't even come down from the house to the actual beach part one time the whole week (largely, I think, because he can't walk up and down stairs any more).
So I'm not sure "fantastic time" is the right phrase. It's more like "basically happy to be around family but grudgingly tolerates everything else and complains until he gets what he wants."
Zenkitty - Jun 03, 2016 5:51:56 am PDT #22437 of 30003
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
So I'm not sure "fantastic time" is the right phrase. It's more like "basically happy to be around family but grudgingly tolerates everything else and complains until he gets what he wants."
Most of my family members are like that...including a couple of the younger ones. Sometimes they want to be with the rest of us anyway, and sometimes they don't. If he's saying he doesn't want to go, I think they should listen to him.
Man, my family is a delightful bunch. No wonder I'm an introvert; it's self-defense.
Dana - Jun 03, 2016 6:03:34 am PDT #22438 of 30003
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
And frankly, even if I would enjoy the situation once I was there, being forced into it would just make me sullen and determined not to enjoy myself.
Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 03, 2016 6:20:58 am PDT #22439 of 30003
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Yeah, his reasons for not wanting to go sound eminently sensible to me. If the in-laws want to spend family time with him on their vacation, they can visit his home or plan an outing to somewhere that won't involve taking an elderly man on an uncomfortably long drive to a place with stairs he can't climb.
We've pretty much abandoned my plan for my parents' 55th anniversary this fall because the 4-hour drive to St. Louis might be too hard on my dad. (And difficulties with navigating his wheelchair at the recent family wedding's outdoor venue will have reinforced his reluctance to go anywhere, though there would be elevators and ADA compatible rooms at the hotel I had picked out.)
Jesse - Jun 03, 2016 6:52:38 am PDT #22440 of 30003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
JFC, apparently one of my best friends at work got fired. I mean, she no longer works here as of yesterday, so. I can imagine her shooting her mouth off in the wrong way to the wrong people, but she was really excited about our new boss coming in a few weeks. And she REALLY knows how to do her job. Fuuuuuuck.