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Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Jun 02, 2016 7:06:00 pm PDT #22433 of 30003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

In an attempt to not completely alienate my Trumpster friends

You're way more open minded then me. I don't think I could consider anybody supporting Trump to be a friend. He's not just the presumptive Republican candidate (which I could handle) - he's a genuinely dangerous man.


Pix - Jun 02, 2016 8:23:59 pm PDT #22434 of 30003
The status is NOT quo.

We are leaving for France in two weeks, a trip we've saved for for two years and I've dreamed of since I was in 7th grade.

Current events in France:

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...ok, then.

But it's ALL GOING TO BE GOOD. Because vacation! France! And 2016 owes us.


Scrappy - Jun 02, 2016 9:19:05 pm PDT #22435 of 30003
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Tippy- I can understand them bullying him IF he always has a fantastic time on vacation and will be very sad to miss it. it's still disrespectful behavior, but in that case the motivation makes sense. If that's the case and if they want to bully him--then they certainly have to drive him. I can see why you are angry, though! I would be.


Steph L. - Jun 03, 2016 3:23:45 am PDT #22436 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I can understand them bullying him IF he always has a fantastic time on vacation and will be very sad to miss it.

He enjoys being with the family regardless of the setting -- but he also is intolerable on the car ride to the beach and back; he's fussy and out of sorts the whole week because things are different from his house; he can't walk up and down stairs any more (and this house has 3 flights of stairs); and he complains the whole time about everything. The last time we all went to Topsail, he didn't even come down from the house to the actual beach part one time the whole week (largely, I think, because he can't walk up and down stairs any more).

So I'm not sure "fantastic time" is the right phrase. It's more like "basically happy to be around family but grudgingly tolerates everything else and complains until he gets what he wants."


Zenkitty - Jun 03, 2016 5:51:56 am PDT #22437 of 30003
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

So I'm not sure "fantastic time" is the right phrase. It's more like "basically happy to be around family but grudgingly tolerates everything else and complains until he gets what he wants."

Most of my family members are like that...including a couple of the younger ones. Sometimes they want to be with the rest of us anyway, and sometimes they don't. If he's saying he doesn't want to go, I think they should listen to him.

Man, my family is a delightful bunch. No wonder I'm an introvert; it's self-defense.


Dana - Jun 03, 2016 6:03:34 am PDT #22438 of 30003
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

And frankly, even if I would enjoy the situation once I was there, being forced into it would just make me sullen and determined not to enjoy myself.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 03, 2016 6:20:58 am PDT #22439 of 30003
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Yeah, his reasons for not wanting to go sound eminently sensible to me. If the in-laws want to spend family time with him on their vacation, they can visit his home or plan an outing to somewhere that won't involve taking an elderly man on an uncomfortably long drive to a place with stairs he can't climb.

We've pretty much abandoned my plan for my parents' 55th anniversary this fall because the 4-hour drive to St. Louis might be too hard on my dad. (And difficulties with navigating his wheelchair at the recent family wedding's outdoor venue will have reinforced his reluctance to go anywhere, though there would be elevators and ADA compatible rooms at the hotel I had picked out.)


Jesse - Jun 03, 2016 6:52:38 am PDT #22440 of 30003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

JFC, apparently one of my best friends at work got fired. I mean, she no longer works here as of yesterday, so. I can imagine her shooting her mouth off in the wrong way to the wrong people, but she was really excited about our new boss coming in a few weeks. And she REALLY knows how to do her job. Fuuuuuuck.


brenda m - Jun 03, 2016 6:59:00 am PDT #22441 of 30003
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

he can't walk up and down stairs any more (and this house has 3 flights of stairs);

Yeah, that's really not okay. I can fully understand why he doesn't want to go.

The Fitbit thing I'm iffy on. If the intent/result is more bullying about exercise or calling him out if he says he's walking more than it is, then I'm with you Steph.

But it would actually be helpful with my dad to have a way to just check in and make sure that he is, in fact, moving. My sister and I have talked about putting Find my iPhone on his phone and linking it to ours. But he's got a) some heart and other health issues ongoing and b) a tendency to leave his phone where he can't hear it when we call to check in.

Also I think my dad would not much care if we did either of these anyway, which also makes a big difference. I don't get the idea Tim's dad would like it at all.


Burrell - Jun 03, 2016 7:29:00 am PDT #22442 of 30003
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Ugh Jesse, that's a bummer

I don't know all the details, but this is not a staff that does that for no purpose. It had to do with other threats that he had made. Parents also came and we've had to deal with other DCFS type stuff. The whole thing is just so sad.

Oo, that's different. Poor kid.