Spike: We got a history, him and me. Fred: What? Spike: It was a long time ago. He was a young Watcher, fresh out of the academy when we crossed paths. It was a, what-you-call battle of wills and blood was spilled. Vendettas were sworn. It was a whole-- Fred: My God you're so full of crap. Spike: Yeah. Okay.

'Unleashed'


Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sheryl - May 15, 2016 2:06:22 pm PDT #21501 of 30003
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Wow, it's been veeeery quiet here today.


Beverly - May 15, 2016 3:08:49 pm PDT #21502 of 30003
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

My whole internet is quiet. Is there some other internet people are using that I just haven't found yet?


billytea - May 15, 2016 3:40:26 pm PDT #21503 of 30003
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Yes! That sweet sweet secret internet.

Meanwhile, my dad has been making waves. Some background: back in 2001, 438 refugees trying to reach Australia by boat ran into distress. They were rescued by a Norwegian freighter, which tried to take them to Christmas Island, an Australian territory. (That's right, Australia claims sovereignty over Christmas. Bonus footage: Santa's elves in action: [link]

The Tampa was refused permission to (re-)enter Australian waters; ever since then, our conservative party has adopted a policy of processing such asylum-seekers offshore, held in forced detention centres in countries such as Nauru and Papue New Guinea, to try to limit Australia's obligation to accept refugees. (I'm vehemently opposed; it's an arrangement ripe for human rights abuses and may violate Australia's international law obligations.)

Anyway, the PNG centre was subjected to legal challenge in that country's Supreme Court. Thus: [link]


Jesse - May 15, 2016 3:47:13 pm PDT #21504 of 30003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'm home from NYC where I saw, among other people, Tom and Jessica! Good times. Also got through both Memory AND Komarr! I mean, I guess I did other stuff, too.


Burrell - May 15, 2016 5:46:38 pm PDT #21505 of 30003
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Yay for your dad, bt! And by that I mean both yay for his accomplishments and yay that he uses his power for good.


-t - May 15, 2016 5:55:43 pm PDT #21506 of 30003
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

So you're looking at A Civil Campaign, that's fun.

Wow, bt!

I was off trekking through Niles (hi beth!) to look at gardens and quilts all day. Pretty fun, but long and tiring -walked about 5.5 miles according to my Fitbit.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 15, 2016 6:36:27 pm PDT #21507 of 30003
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I know Hamilton has been everyone's theatre obsession lately, but I am much more excited about finding out that the Broadway touring company of Hedwig and the Angry Inch is going to feature Darren Criss returning to the lead role.


billytea - May 15, 2016 7:29:19 pm PDT #21508 of 30003
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Yay for your dad, bt! And by that I mean both yay for his accomplishments and yay that he uses his power for good.

He does have a tendency to do that kind of thing. One of his earliest cases was back in the early 70s, when some Aboriginal activists set up a tent embassy on the grounds of Parliament House. The govt of the day (correctly) saw calling it an embassy as provocative, and sent in the police to break it up - violently, it is reported.

My dad represented them in court, and won, on the basis that the ordinance passed by the government to legitimise their actions had been incorrectly drafted. Unfortunately, that invalidated dozens of other ordinances at the same time, leaving legislators scrambling to clean up the mess.

A change of government shortly thereafter changed the landscape. It's had a chequered history since, but the tent embassy still exists today.


Dana - May 16, 2016 6:27:29 am PDT #21509 of 30003
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I love John Oliver, but he gives me something new to worry about every week.


Jesse - May 16, 2016 6:46:30 am PDT #21510 of 30003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

We should have listened to Flavor Flav years ago - 911 is a joke!

Edit: ....which I typed mid-watching, before Oliver made that very point.