Mal: You know, you ain't quite right. River: It's the popular theory.

'Objects In Space'


Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - May 04, 2016 4:55:17 am PDT #20876 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

A lot of people really hate Hillary and maybe that will get a lot of angry white guys to the polls.

A lot of people ALSO really hate Trump, including his own party. Last night there was a LOT of talk about "Republicans for Hillary," the NotTrump movement, etc. And then you have people like my dad, who are horrifying misogynists and won't vote for Clinton, but also won't vote for Trump because he's the fucking devil.

I think it'll be a horrifically ugly campaign, but I really think Clinton's got this.


Steph L. - May 04, 2016 5:00:48 am PDT #20877 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

The only thing I don't get today is this outcry of shock/horror/whatever that Trump is now the de facto nominee.

Like, I slacked off on the exercise and also hit up the M&Ms too hard at the same time, and when my jeans were too tight...I WASN'T SHOCKED. Because I could see it coming.

Why is there ANY shock about Trump today? I for real don't get it. Everyone saw it coming.


Gudanov - May 04, 2016 5:03:32 am PDT #20878 of 30003
Coding and Sleeping

It's always sudden.


Steph L. - May 04, 2016 5:04:35 am PDT #20879 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Threepeat:

Also, *are* there any moderate Republican politicians left any more? Or are they all hiding out on an island together because they don't want to be associated with what their party has become?

There used to be moderate Republican politicians, right? I remember this. As recently as the 90s, I remember this. Bob Dole doesn't look so bad right now. Hell, *Reagan* doesn't look so bad right now (and it physically pains me to type that). Where is the island they all fled to?


Jesse - May 04, 2016 5:14:30 am PDT #20880 of 30003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

There aren't moderate Republican elected officials, because of gerrymandering and the Tea Party, right? All the moderates got beaten in primaries by people farther to the right.


Dana - May 04, 2016 5:20:56 am PDT #20881 of 30003
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I am having a hard time concentrating in my meeting because of politics. I would like to get past the stage of "Trump couldn't really, right?" and into the stage of enjoying his humiliating defeat.


Steph L. - May 04, 2016 5:23:11 am PDT #20882 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

All the moderates got beaten in primaries by people farther to the right.

So they're on that mythical island, then. I hope the drinks are good.

I'm still full of raaaaaaaaaage at my dad today. I've always known in the back of my mind how horribly sexist he is, but I've been able to ignore it because he's smart enough not to even start that shit with me. But apparently he hates Clinton enough that he thinks it's okay to bust out the bullshit with his actual female offspring.

Like, I know Tim's dad won't vote for Clinton because he's a dyed-in-the-wool FOX News Republican. He wouldn't have voted for *any* Democratic candidate. But he's also not a hateful misogynist. I'm obviously going to avoid talking politics with him as well, BUT I don't expect to hear any hateful misogyny coming out of his mouth.

Bah. I forsee many, many months of using the fierce banhammer of Shut The Fuck Up Dad. (He also told me last night that Obama has made the US into a third-world country. I laughed so hard and for so long that he shut up on that one.)


Steph L. - May 04, 2016 5:23:46 am PDT #20883 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

enjoying his humiliating defeat.

Just imagine how fantastic your FB feed will look on election night as a sea of Hamilton GIFs.


shrift - May 04, 2016 5:23:52 am PDT #20884 of 30003
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

oh joy, shrift

At least it'll be over quickly. I'm listening to Hamilton on the shuttle right now because I am very sleep deprived and I had to be out the door by 6:30am today.


Toddson - May 04, 2016 5:27:23 am PDT #20885 of 30003
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Elizabeth Warren commented that Trump is more popular with the KKK than any of the leaders of the party he's representing.