A year and a half ago, I could have eviscerated him with my thoughts. Now I can barely hurt his feelings. Things used to be so much simpler.

Anya ,'Dirty Girls'


Marvel Universe: Infinite Chrises

Discussion of all Marvel Cinematic Universe related movies and TV shows, including, but not limited to, the Avengers, Captain America, Agent Carter, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Daredevil, Spider-Man, Ant-Man, etc., etc., etc. ad-infinitum.

Discussion of non-MCU Marvel titles like the X-Men or the Fantastic Four is also permitted. Ties to comics may be discussed, but this is not the primary forum for comics discussion (see the Other Media thread).

Spoiler policy: For broadcast TV shows, blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast. For movies and Internet streaming shows, whitefont all plot-related discussion until it's been in wide release two weeks. Posters are encouraged to preface their posts to indicate the subject, particulary if switching subjects.


DebetEsse - May 07, 2016 1:06:05 pm PDT #889 of 4004
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Plei, in terms of Tony needing someone to protect him when he was young, he DID. That person was the big bad in Movie 1. One thing these movies hit over and over is that you can't really trust Outside People because they are corruptible/susceptible to being overtaken by shit like HYDRA.

If there was ever a group who needs something like a formalized Justice League for self-government, it's these assholes.

Also, YES to Matt's last paragraph.


P.M. Marc - May 07, 2016 1:20:43 pm PDT #890 of 4004
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Yeah, there is him. And Jarvis. See? This why I need to better-form the thoughts!

Also... I need to dig into the places they won't send us bit: Steve's got more than SHIELD in his history with that. The pragmatic choice, the triage choice, to not try to rescue the 107th is the whole reason he became Captain America for real. He's also not unwilling to face consequences for that: kid surrendered himself. But that's only something he can choose to do acting solo: he cannot have a team put in that position. (Not an official one. This is another hard to articulate piece, where people throwing in with him is different than an official leadership role. It makes sense in my head and I am still on my phone.)


Steph L. - May 07, 2016 2:26:41 pm PDT #891 of 4004
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Martin Freeman.

I, for real, forgot he was in Civil War when I posted my Sam-as-Watson noodling. Not really sure why the movie needed him specifically, unless they're planning on using him later.


Tom Scola - May 07, 2016 2:50:59 pm PDT #892 of 4004
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

His character shows up in Black Panther comics a lot. Or maybe they want to put him in role that Coulson had in the Phase 1 pictures, observer/audience proxy.


Calli - May 07, 2016 3:14:01 pm PDT #893 of 4004
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

One thing that pinged me about the Sovokia Accords, was that I couldn't see Steve putting himself under the control of an organization that he couldn't personally, thoroughly vet. In the MCU, I can't imagine a power center like the UN not being absolutely riddled with Hydra. Having a UN committee running the Avengers would be SHIELD all over again, except this time Steve would suspect if from the start. Tony supposedly found out he'd been helping Hydra via SHIELD, too, after CA: TWS, and thus should have known better. But Avengers aside, Tony held himself apart from SHIELD. Steve seemed to be pretty well embedded in it during CA: TWS. So the whole "half my coworkers were Hydra wtf?!?" thing probably hit Steve harder.

Anyway, I hope to see it again. Maybe next weekend.


Zenkitty - May 07, 2016 3:29:40 pm PDT #894 of 4004
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I forgot too, my brain went straight to Watson/Wilson and that was painful for me, people.

ION: OMG DEADPOOL BLU-RAY COMMERCIAL LOL


Steph L. - May 07, 2016 3:33:10 pm PDT #895 of 4004
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

His character shows up in Black Panther comics a lot.

Okay, so we may likely see him again. Fair enough.


Tom Scola - May 07, 2016 3:33:28 pm PDT #896 of 4004
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

Deadpool: [link]


P.M. Marc - May 07, 2016 4:21:30 pm PDT #897 of 4004
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Tomorrow! I see it again tomorrow!


Sean K - May 07, 2016 5:22:35 pm PDT #898 of 4004
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I saw it today too, although I missed about ten minutes near the end (from about halfway through the airport fight, to just before Tony saw the tape and the final fight started). Something I ate from the concession stand gave be bad gastrointestinal distress, and I had to run out.

So, lots of stuff that's been said already has me nodding my head quite a bit, although my main question in the aftermath is Why were Clint and Sam locked up in the Superhero prison? Take their gear away, and any old prison will do.