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Marvel Universe: Infinite Chrises

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amyparker - Mar 08, 2021 10:24:06 am PST #3232 of 3942
In the end it's only ever been one step, and then the next.

I saw a summary that was "the hero worked through her trauma and healed/the villain got away, and they were the same character", and - yeah. One woman of color who'd been wronged by Wanda offered sympathy, and that was her right, but the person who lingers in my mind is another woman of color who stood there, weeping and frightened and alone, who said "Tell my husband never to come back here". And Wanda silenced her, and everyone else who spoke up about being harmed by her actions. Sure, she stopped, and I agree with juliana's point that her continued presence would have prevented the work going forward, but Wanda got to just pull up the Hoodie of Sadness and walk out after all of that?

Hayward was an asshole, and a villain, and I am delighted that Darcy hit him with a funnel cake truck. That Marvel keeps making the people saying "There has to be a mechanism for accountability and redress when non-powered people are harmed" the bad guys ("Thunderbolt" Ross, anyone?) comes across as "Welp, this is complicated, and the audience likes the booms, so . . . ."


Steph L. - Mar 08, 2021 10:43:16 am PST #3233 of 3942
Apparently if you're enough of a power nerd, there is nothing that cannot be flowcharted.

WandaVision is taking place roughly 3-4 weeks after Endgame, based on Monica un-dusting and then Hawyard saying it took her only 3 weeks to return to SWORD. So the town of Westview was undoubtedly traumatized by the Snap, and then 3 weeks later got massively mind-controlled.

I said this after Infinity War, but Marvel got in WAY over its head in literally killing half the global population and then bringing them back. People are way too functional post-Endgame, in terms of the sheer psychological trauma. The limits of my suspension of disbelief apparently lie with psychological trauma.


amyparker - Mar 08, 2021 11:05:09 am PST #3234 of 3942
In the end it's only ever been one step, and then the next.

The limits of my suspension of disbelief apparently lie with psychological trauma.

(points at this and nods)


Consuela - Mar 08, 2021 7:11:10 pm PST #3235 of 3942
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Word, Steph. I am dissatisfied with the lack of accountability, or even really acknowledgement, especially when they had Monica say what she said: that went over the line, I thought.

And the only reason Wanda was forced to sacrifice her family to save the town was because she was the one who had put them all in that position to begin with. So Monica's statement about how the townspeople didn't understand was ridiculous on its face. Bad writing, forced sympathy for Wanda in the face of really bad behavior, however rationalized.


Tom Scola - Mar 09, 2021 3:21:17 pm PST #3236 of 3942
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

This is making me more excited for Falcon and the Winter Soldier.


Steph L. - Mar 09, 2021 4:17:11 pm PST #3237 of 3942
Apparently if you're enough of a power nerd, there is nothing that cannot be flowcharted.

Ha! Sam's not wrong.


DavidS - Mar 09, 2021 6:16:15 pm PST #3238 of 3942
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

"A sorcerer is a wizard without a hat!"

Hmmm....What about warlocks?


-t - Mar 09, 2021 6:35:33 pm PST #3239 of 3942
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Hats are optional for warlocks


DavidS - Mar 09, 2021 6:41:00 pm PST #3240 of 3942
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Hats are optional for warlocks

But what *kind* of hat?


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 10, 2021 10:18:52 am PST #3241 of 3942
"You should never say bad things about the dead, only good… Joan Crawford is dead. Good.” —Bette Davis

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