Oh gosh no, 9/11 hadn't occurred to me. Oh, if we're thinking tragic events... where would you start? Let alone stop? The main problem is I have to figure out how the hell timelines work. If he can show up in this one, then he can't have changed very much - which means he DIDN'T save Bucky, or prevent Hydra from whatever. He just um... went back to Peggy and then hid for seventy years? Or else he's hopping timelines, which okay but... Well. It makes me run in circles trying to figure it out.
I always thought the name Serenity had a vaguely funereal sound to it.
Simon ,'Out Of Gas'
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Emily - Nov 14, 2020 11:49:54 am PST #3099 of 3944
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola
Consuela - Nov 14, 2020 11:58:43 am PST #3100 of 3944
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
Oh, if we're thinking tragic events... where would you start? Let alone stop?
9/11, Rwandan Genocide, Rohinga genocide, the famines in China caused by Mao's policies (memfault on the name), Vietnam war, Ebola outbreaks, Syrian civil war... I mean, there's a LOT.
I would rather Steve didn't go back in time because either he lets all that shit happen and he's not Steve Rogers, or he dies trying to stop them (and fails anyway).
Gris - Nov 14, 2020 4:16:25 pm PST #3101 of 3944
Hey. New board.
Timey wimey hijinks never go well in anything more serious than dr who
dcp - Nov 14, 2020 4:39:05 pm PST #3102 of 3944
"I yam what I yam and that's all what I yam," -- Popeye
Old tagline:
"I hate temporal anomalies." ⬧ Miles O'Brien, DS9
Emily - Nov 14, 2020 5:01:04 pm PST #3103 of 3944
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola
I don't even mind all that - I really don't see how he can "fix" history, even if he wanted to - but I also don't buy the "we never saw Agent Carter's husband" story; he's overwriting her children.
Actually, to be clear, I am torn. I get that there's some lovely symmetry to it, and I really did feel warm and gooey when I saw it in theaters. It just gets worse the longer I think about it.
Steph L. - Nov 14, 2020 5:16:26 pm PST #3104 of 3944
Apparently if you're enough of a power nerd, there is nothing that cannot be flowcharted.
Actually, to be clear, I am torn. I get that there's some lovely symmetry to it, and I really did feel warm and gooey when I saw it in theaters. It just gets worse the longer I think about it.
Agreed on both counts.
sj - Nov 14, 2020 7:10:39 pm PST #3105 of 3944
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
The writers have said they feel the children were always Caps kids.
Sophia Brooks - Nov 14, 2020 7:14:52 pm PST #3106 of 3944
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here
I have only watched Captain America, Avengers, and Winter Soldier and read a lot of Steve/Bucky fanfic, so this is very odd to me.
P.M. Marc - Nov 14, 2020 8:33:57 pm PST #3107 of 3944
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
The writers have said they feel the children were always Caps kids.
The Russos, on the other hand, who are way better about details than the writers (the writers are the sort who should just not...talk, bless, and there's no way for it to be same timeline without contradicting massive amounts of the text), are on the alternate timeline train.
Which, you know, so am I. We know Loki made one, 'cause he gets a DisneyPlus series about it.
Kalshane - Nov 15, 2020 9:04:52 am PST #3108 of 3944
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
Yeah, I've always assumed "alternate timeline" for Steve. He and Peggy continued to fight the good fight in whatever timeline he hopped to while our prime timeline happened as we saw. Then after Peggy's death Steve hopped back to the prime timeline to say goodbye to Sam and hand over his shield. (Steve and Bucky's dialogue before Steve leaves as well as Bucky pointing out old Steve to Sam heavily implies Bucky knew exactly what Steve was planning.)