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Marvel Universe: Infinite Chrises

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Tom Scola - Apr 26, 2019 6:13:16 am PDT #2687 of 4006
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

But then why the HELL would Steve not warn Peggy that S.H.I.E.L.D. had been infiltrated by Hydra?


P.M. Marc - Apr 26, 2019 6:35:30 am PDT #2688 of 4006
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

It's possible that he created an alternate timeline and just asked someone in that timeline for a favor to get him back to the timeline they were in. Nebula's killing of her past self didn't get rid of her present self and they had their own weird timey-wimey explanations of what does and does not work.


msbelle - Apr 26, 2019 7:09:37 am PDT #2689 of 4006
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I was thinking once he went back there are 2 Steves in a timeline until the moment Cap zaps back to the past and that's when the two timelines reconnect and only one Steve is left. So either modern Cap gone back says nothing of what he knows and let's things just play out, or the now that we see at then end is going to be slightly changed?!?! Time travel stuff makes my head hurt. I want a Russo Brother answer on this. Nice cameo by one them in the support group, right? Was the other one anywhere, I did not catch it.


DebetEsse - Apr 26, 2019 8:10:02 am PDT #2690 of 4006
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I did the "Hulk eating lunch" pee break and made it to the end (difficulty level: third trimester). We were debating whether to tell people there's no post-credits.

So, apart from the obvious three, who else is all done with the franchise? We're clearly getting more Thor, what about Hulk? And Hawkeye?

Also, I eagerly await the fics about coping with half the population being 5 years out of sync with the other half.

On the time travel, it seems like Cap is a closed-loop (took the long way around in the same timeline), but Nebula, Gamora, and Thanos created an open-loop (new timeline due to being dead/in the future).


P.M. Marc - Apr 26, 2019 8:25:21 am PDT #2691 of 4006
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

So Hawkeye is getting the TV series no one asked for but apparently, we get? IDEK there. Which means Renner's not done quite yet.

I did the "Hulk eating lunch" pee break and made it to the end (difficulty level: third trimester).

Well done! Damn!


msbelle - Apr 26, 2019 9:23:44 am PDT #2692 of 4006
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I just read somewhere that an alternate timeline now exists where Loki has a stone.

Also

these people read Cap as going back to sometime in the 40s therefore wiping out Peggy marrying whoever was mentioned as her husband, but since he was never named I want to believe that future Steve took on the identity of someone else to everyone else but Peggy.

I searched last night on contract info for remaining people but did not find anything real tight. Especially since many have renegotiated. Pretty sure Sebastian has at least 4 more movies on his contract though. The stuff I did read said st one point Rennet had said that his contract included a Hawkeye movie. I cannot see a market for that so maybe the series has replaced that. There is also the Loki series. Gotta think that the Black Widow movie is an origin story that would include Hawkeye, right?


DebetEsse - Apr 26, 2019 10:58:18 am PDT #2693 of 4006
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I don't like the idea of wiping out the TV show from the timeline, which would happen if he went back to the 40s. I assumed he just stayed in 70 after dropping off the stuff he and Tony grabbed.


msbelle - Apr 26, 2019 4:19:03 pm PDT #2694 of 4006
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

DO NOT CLICK IT IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN ENDGAME.

This deals with some one th questions we have been pondering: [link]


Calli - Apr 26, 2019 4:31:17 pm PDT #2695 of 4006
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Well, I just saw it. Going backward, more or less, my first comment is fucking clanging?!?!? I sat through watching the name of everyone who has ever so much as spit in the direction of Hollywood scroll by just for a black screen and fucking clanging?!?!? OK, yes, an homage to the genesis of Iron Man and all that. But still. Anyway, Tony and Steve had good endings. For that matter, so did Natasha, in a way. I'll admit, I didn't expect to lose more than one of the original six, so Stark was a surprise. Good way for him to go, though, saving all life in the universe. I'm pretty sure Peggy looked like her 1940s self, not 1970s, so I'm thinking Steven went way back. My theater went absolutely nuts when Sam's voice came over the comms and then the Wakandans showed up. The last, big fight scene was really well done. I loved Thor's mom, and it was great to see her again for a little bit. Gamora's arc was good, although it feels like shooting your earlier self could lead to some timey-wimey issues. There were lots of other bits that were satisfying. I'm sad that we'll never get a Black Widow movie. I feel like Captain Marvel was underused, but with so many characters there probably wasn't a way to do more with her.

Anyway. First reactions and all that.


msbelle - Apr 26, 2019 4:32:47 pm PDT #2696 of 4006
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

FWIW - I think we will get a Black Widow origin movie.