Trudy Day!
Giles, if you would like to get by in American society, then you are going to have to follow our traditions. You're the patriarch. You have to host the festivities, or it's all meaningless.
Buffy ,'Sleeper'
Natter 73: Chuck Norris only wishes he could Natter
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Connie Neil - Sep 11, 2014 7:02:24 am PDT #5913 of 30000
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Steph L. - Sep 11, 2014 7:07:36 am PDT #5914 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
Pix, I have been waking up ugly tired every morning for the past two weeks. I need to find a way to fix it.
Me, too. And I have no idea why.
Connie Neil - Sep 11, 2014 7:14:11 am PDT #5915 of 30000
brillig
Oversleeping your alarm by 2 hours goes a long way to waking up refreshed.
shrift - Sep 11, 2014 7:17:37 am PDT #5916 of 30000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty
Also in the ugly tired group.
Maria - Sep 11, 2014 7:25:35 am PDT #5917 of 30000
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift
Me three, though that may have to do with Tuesday being a travel day to Denver, less than 21 hours in CO, and a flight home that didn't get me to my house until midnight yesterday.
Happy birthday, Trudy!
tommyrot - Sep 11, 2014 7:26:56 am PDT #5918 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
I was really tired yesterday. So I took a 90 minute nap after work and then went to bed early. So I got about 10.5 hours of sleep in total. I'm still tired but less than yesterday.
Frankenbuddha - Sep 11, 2014 7:38:25 am PDT #5919 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Hippo birdies, Trudy!
Connie Neil - Sep 11, 2014 8:04:07 am PDT #5920 of 30000
brillig
I am going to have to state outright that the following thoughts are not "ethical", ie, concerned with the welfare of animals, or mindful of suffering in the world, etc.
A Ravelry board is intensely debating how you can determine if your silk is ethically sourced. Also, is it better if the egg is unfertilized, if the pupa is killed, if it's the larva, or if the adult is killed to prevent the world being overtaken by silk moths. Also, isn't the whole thing animal enslavement (OK, they didn't talk about that, but I bailed on the conversation so it may have come up)? Maybe it's OK if the larva died naturally (though someone pointed out that silk farmers can't take a larva's pulse)?
I know this is a matter of deep concern to many people, but i can't help staring at this conversation in disbelief.
This does not include the difficulties in finding out if the sheep you get your wool from were "ethically" sheared.
I'm just going to have to claim my less-than-advanced state and remember that sheep that are badly treated are not profitable sheep and that a lot of these species/variants wouldn't even exist if it weren't for farmers.
Calli - Sep 11, 2014 8:09:46 am PDT #5921 of 30000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
I have to admit I've given little thought to the suffering of the silkworms who created the material for my scarf. I suspect I lack advanced Buddha nature.
Connie Neil - Sep 11, 2014 8:14:43 am PDT #5922 of 30000
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A closer reading of the thread revealed several people marking Disagree on the woman who began the thread and her worries about doing the right thing by the silkworms. And someone else said she wasn't worried about the fate of bugs, and she's a vegetarian.
Makes me wonder if the Buddhist monks only wear cotton they picked and spun themselves.
There was a side debate on the ethics of shipping things and whether shipping on a boat from Australia was better than trucking things in from Spain (initial poster is in England). Shipping was ruled more ecofriendly.