A closer reading of the thread revealed several people marking Disagree on the woman who began the thread and her worries about doing the right thing by the silkworms. And someone else said she wasn't worried about the fate of bugs, and she's a vegetarian.

Makes me wonder if the Buddhist monks only wear cotton they picked and spun themselves.

There was a side debate on the ethics of shipping things and whether shipping on a boat from Australia was better than trucking things in from Spain (initial poster is in England). Shipping was ruled more ecofriendly.

Happy birthday, Trudy!

I suspect I lack advanced Buddha nature.

Every now and then, very well-meaning vegan people try to tell me that eating honey oppresses bees. I remove myself from those conversations very quickly.

My apologies to everyone who woke up ugly tired, because I think I stole all the sleep.

I do have ethical issues with honey, but they are pretty much the same as I do for mass agri-business in general. I take it a little more personally when hives are mistreated because I do particularly like bees. But if you know the source of your honey you can find out what kind of practices they follow (and verify that your honey is really honey and not a smidgen of honey in a lot of corn syrup).

Silkworms just make me think of how it at least used to be common practice for the women harvesting the silk to steam and eat the silkworms as they went. Efficient!

Happy Birthday, Trudy!!

Happy birthday Trudy!

Hello from Dublin! I am forcing myself to sit in a pub, bt I'm not going to stay for long.

I buy my honey from local beekeepers, precisely because I want to make sure I'm getting actual honey, not honey-flavored corn syrup.

Then you qualify for the -t approved Ethical Honey Consumer stamp! May be applied to your Goth Card.

Then you qualify for the -t approved Ethical Honey Consumer stamp! May be applied to your Goth Card.

Yay! dips skull spoon back into jar of honey

I buy my honey from local beekeepers, precisely because I want to make sure I'm getting actual honey, not honey-flavored corn syrup.

Same here. Also, because the honey purveyors at the farmer's market are awesomely snarky, and they carry honey straws. Which are fantastic.