Question: Will hiding in a cavern with stockpiled chocolate goods be any part of this plan?

Xander ,'Get It Done'


Natter 73: Chuck Norris only wishes he could Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Jun 19, 2015 5:48:41 am PDT #29064 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

One of those cute apartment blocks that's essentially bungalows around a central courtyard.

On my Tom Waits tour we end up in the alleyway in Silverlake where shot the video for "In The Neighborhood" (which was his old neighborhood). One of the locals came out their door to inquire what we were doing and showed us how she and her cousins had all bought properties that shared back yards and the fences were taken down.

So there was this very cool extended, multilevel open garden with lights strung over it and play spaces for kids and benches for sitting and a BBQ pit. Probably like five houses pooling into a common area. It was really cool and lovely.


Dana - Jun 19, 2015 5:50:11 am PDT #29065 of 30000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

JZ, there's a line in Gaudy Night where Harriet says that you can't like someone better just because they're ill or dying.


Zenkitty - Jun 19, 2015 5:59:23 am PDT #29066 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I see forgiveness sort of as giving up the right to revenge.

I like that. Well phrased. I've been musing on the subject of forgiveness a lot the last few months, mostly in the context of my grandmother. To me, forgiveness always felt the same as saying that it didn't matter; they did me no real harm, everything's all right. That's what forgiveness always is to people like my grandmother: they don't care how you feel, they just want to be absolved of all wrongdoing. Forgiveness means they don't have to change. I've had to learn new definitions of forgiveness before I could figure out if I could forgive at all.


shrift - Jun 19, 2015 6:05:47 am PDT #29067 of 30000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Amidst all the serious talk about forgiveness and what we want to do with our lives, I just want to mention that Beverly has me cackling about poop demons and that just now I totally forgot that I'd left up a French sex toy site on the big monitor, which is entirely work related but perhaps inappropriate for visitors.


shrift - Jun 19, 2015 6:51:22 am PDT #29068 of 30000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I killed Natter with sex toys.

It's PMM's birthday today, right?


Steph L. - Jun 19, 2015 6:56:45 am PDT #29069 of 30000
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Oh, man. It looks like a police officer was killed this morning in a shootout with a wingnut with a gun (who was also killed). That's so rough.

t edit Apparently this was the first officer killed in the line of duty since 2000. Dang.


flea - Jun 19, 2015 7:26:20 am PDT #29070 of 30000
information libertarian

Well, I had a much-needed uplifting conversation with a longtime community activist after the grants class I taught this morning, and then came downstairs to pouring rain and a police officer death.

Also, I am so tired of the soupy humidity and pouring rain this week.


lisah - Jun 19, 2015 7:31:28 am PDT #29071 of 30000
Punishingly Intricate

Oh, msbelle, you'd fit in so well here!


shrift - Jun 19, 2015 7:47:27 am PDT #29072 of 30000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Oh, hey. There's a gas leak outside and we're not allowed to leave the building.


Burrell - Jun 19, 2015 7:49:12 am PDT #29073 of 30000
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I have often lamented my lack of Rebecca nearby as I would lean on you far too much for help sorting through the piles of crap stacked about my life. But I do not picture you in LA, whereas I can easily see you in Baltimore. Wherever the future takes you.

JZ, I feel about forgiveness as many others around here do (huh, fancy that!). I don't think forgiveness is always owed to those who have wronged us. You don't have to do the hard emotional work of forgiving someone who has never bothered to ask for it, even if they are dying. But it seems like what you want is closure, to be able to bury your anger and not carry it with you after she's dead. But that's about you and what you need, which seems far more the way to think about it. It sounds like you are already moving in that direction, towards taking stock and letting go.