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'Beneath You'


Natter 73: Chuck Norris only wishes he could Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


brenda m - Jun 19, 2015 2:42:36 am PDT #29061 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

One of those cute apartment blocks that's essentially bungalows around a central courtyard.

I am so down for this.


juliana - Jun 19, 2015 4:03:35 am PDT #29062 of 30000
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

Your forgiveness or lack of it doesn't make any difference to her at this point, and if you're not ready to forgive her, then you aren't; you can't make that happen with moral guilt. (And in my humble opinion, feeling guilty because you can't forgive someone is just a way for them to keep abusing you long after they've gone.)

This. All of this.


WindSparrow - Jun 19, 2015 5:03:44 am PDT #29063 of 30000
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

I see forgiveness sort of as giving up the right to revenge. Any punishment that can be dealt to an offender becomes the right of the Divine - to teach, or heal, or simply take revenge as Ze sees fit. That does not mean I protect such a person from the natural consequences of their actions, or pretend that one who harmed me is my friend. I dunno how close to genuine forgiveness that is, but in some cases it's the best I can do. And I don't know if that is of any use to you, JZ. You feel what you feel. May there be healing for all broken hearts. May there be repair for all bent, broken, and twisted minds. May love and peace fill up those who do not have a surfeit of them.


DavidS - Jun 19, 2015 5:48:41 am PDT #29064 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

One of those cute apartment blocks that's essentially bungalows around a central courtyard.

On my Tom Waits tour we end up in the alleyway in Silverlake where shot the video for "In The Neighborhood" (which was his old neighborhood). One of the locals came out their door to inquire what we were doing and showed us how she and her cousins had all bought properties that shared back yards and the fences were taken down.

So there was this very cool extended, multilevel open garden with lights strung over it and play spaces for kids and benches for sitting and a BBQ pit. Probably like five houses pooling into a common area. It was really cool and lovely.


Dana - Jun 19, 2015 5:50:11 am PDT #29065 of 30000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

JZ, there's a line in Gaudy Night where Harriet says that you can't like someone better just because they're ill or dying.


Zenkitty - Jun 19, 2015 5:59:23 am PDT #29066 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I see forgiveness sort of as giving up the right to revenge.

I like that. Well phrased. I've been musing on the subject of forgiveness a lot the last few months, mostly in the context of my grandmother. To me, forgiveness always felt the same as saying that it didn't matter; they did me no real harm, everything's all right. That's what forgiveness always is to people like my grandmother: they don't care how you feel, they just want to be absolved of all wrongdoing. Forgiveness means they don't have to change. I've had to learn new definitions of forgiveness before I could figure out if I could forgive at all.


shrift - Jun 19, 2015 6:05:47 am PDT #29067 of 30000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Amidst all the serious talk about forgiveness and what we want to do with our lives, I just want to mention that Beverly has me cackling about poop demons and that just now I totally forgot that I'd left up a French sex toy site on the big monitor, which is entirely work related but perhaps inappropriate for visitors.


shrift - Jun 19, 2015 6:51:22 am PDT #29068 of 30000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I killed Natter with sex toys.

It's PMM's birthday today, right?


Steph L. - Jun 19, 2015 6:56:45 am PDT #29069 of 30000
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Oh, man. It looks like a police officer was killed this morning in a shootout with a wingnut with a gun (who was also killed). That's so rough.

t edit Apparently this was the first officer killed in the line of duty since 2000. Dang.


flea - Jun 19, 2015 7:26:20 am PDT #29070 of 30000
information libertarian

Well, I had a much-needed uplifting conversation with a longtime community activist after the grants class I taught this morning, and then came downstairs to pouring rain and a police officer death.

Also, I am so tired of the soupy humidity and pouring rain this week.