Natter 73: Chuck Norris only wishes he could Natter
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Remember how I said I was going to resign from the ADD group? I still am, but I decided to stick out this year, which ends in May.
Now there's a board member who really really wants to sell snacks and water at the meetings to make more money for our chapter. Which is all well and good, but people who are eating and drinking are going to make a mess eventually, and the last people there are going to be stuck with the cleanup -- that's me and Tim.
I have replied to the emails several times with "I am not willing to take on the responsibility of cleanup," and the guy who's gung-ho about snacks keeps replying with things like "I'll clean up *if* I make it to a meeting!" (He's made it to only 1 or 2 meetings this year, so I have very little faith that he'll be there for any others.)
I'm about thisclose to replying with "You CANNOT propose a change and then let other people do the work because fuck you."
I can be passive-aggressive about it and just leave the mess, but that's not fair to the church that lets us have our meetings there. So we'll end up cleaning up, and I will be PISSED.
I seriously am boggled at the cojones it takes to propose a change to the way we do things that creates more work for OTHER people. (No one else is objecting, because no one else is there until 10:30 p.m. It's just me and Tim.)
"You can sell snacks at the meetings you attend so you can clean up after."
Yeah, how is he selling stuff at meetings he's not at?
Yeah, how is he selling stuff at meetings he's not at?
He wants someone else to do it. (Someone else has volunteered to sell the snacks, but they won't stay until 10:30 to clean up.)
Are there doors you can lock to keep people trapped in the meetings until they clean up their own damn messes?
I wish! It is reasonable to expect grown-ass adults to clean up after themselves, but shit happens, you know? People spill drinks, drop pretzels and then step on them and grind them into the carpet, and -- most significantly with a group of people with ADD -- really truly intend to clean up but then start talking to someone else and drift out the door while they're talking, with the mess completely forgotten.
It's only 3 meetings (March, April, May) and then I'm finished. But it's not just about me, you know? It's about anyone getting stuck with more work that someone ELSE proposed. Just...no. You want snacks, YOU be the one to sell them and clean up.
But, like I said, no one else on the board raised an objection because they aren't the ones who stay until 10:30. They all leave when the presentation is finished at 8:30 (there are support groups afterward that are supposed to end by 10, but, unsurprisingly, they run over because people will not stop talking).
You can't get people to agree that cleaning up is a required part of this task?
You can't get people to agree that cleaning up is a required part of this task?
Everyone recognizes that cleanup is required, but only one person has acknowledged that they're shafting Tim and me. The emails are kind of shaking out like this:
Person 1: "We need someone willing to take on this responsibility."
Person 2: "I volunteer to set up a table and sell stuff, but I cannot stay to clean up. That means Tim and Steph will have to do it."
(So, for the record, someone other than me explicitly pointed out that we're getting stuck with cleanup.)
Me: "Nope nope nope nope fuck you nope nope nope."
Person who suggested this nonsense: "People will clean up after themselves! If I make it to a meeting, I'll clean up [even though I've only made it to 2 meetings all year]!"
Me: "Totally unfair, you jackhole."
Person who suggested this nonsense: "People need to eat! We need to raise money! This will net us $20-30 a meeting!"
Yeah, buddy. Twenty fucking dollars. Tim said (to me, sarcastically) that he'd just donate that much every month if it meant we don't have to clean up.
Jesus. Smack 'em, Teppy. ADD may be an excuse for the actual forgetting in the moment but it's not an excuse to act like an asshole BEFOREHAND.
I've used home warranty at least three times this year. The nice thing about it is having a consolidated place that will find a repair person for you, but of course it's going to be not the best repair person.-- Best for minor issues.
Ugh, this is a point. I mean, I got an Angie's list membership but even just figuring out "do I call a plumber for this? What kind of handyman can handle the front steps, when I'm not even sure what needs doing to them? Why do none of these dryer vent people clean vents on the third floor?" Makes me crazy. And even once you pick someone, calling and leaving messages until you find someone who can come out and fix whatver in a timely fashion....
"Selling snacks can be approved only with a designated cleanup person for each instance (not Steph or Tim). No exceptions." Then they can wrangle about the designated cleanup person until the whole issue is fixed or forgotten.