Yeah, how is he selling stuff at meetings he's not at?

Yeah, how is he selling stuff at meetings he's not at?

He wants someone else to do it. (Someone else has volunteered to sell the snacks, but they won't stay until 10:30 to clean up.)

Are there doors you can lock to keep people trapped in the meetings until they clean up their own damn messes?

I wish! It is reasonable to expect grown-ass adults to clean up after themselves, but shit happens, you know? People spill drinks, drop pretzels and then step on them and grind them into the carpet, and -- most significantly with a group of people with ADD -- really truly intend to clean up but then start talking to someone else and drift out the door while they're talking, with the mess completely forgotten.

It's only 3 meetings (March, April, May) and then I'm finished. But it's not just about me, you know? It's about anyone getting stuck with more work that someone ELSE proposed. Just...no. You want snacks, YOU be the one to sell them and clean up.

But, like I said, no one else on the board raised an objection because they aren't the ones who stay until 10:30. They all leave when the presentation is finished at 8:30 (there are support groups afterward that are supposed to end by 10, but, unsurprisingly, they run over because people will not stop talking).

You can't get people to agree that cleaning up is a required part of this task?

You can't get people to agree that cleaning up is a required part of this task?

Everyone recognizes that cleanup is required, but only one person has acknowledged that they're shafting Tim and me. The emails are kind of shaking out like this:

Person 1: "We need someone willing to take on this responsibility."
Person 2: "I volunteer to set up a table and sell stuff, but I cannot stay to clean up. That means Tim and Steph will have to do it."

(So, for the record, someone other than me explicitly pointed out that we're getting stuck with cleanup.)

Me: "Nope nope nope nope fuck you nope nope nope."
Person who suggested this nonsense: "People will clean up after themselves! If I make it to a meeting, I'll clean up [even though I've only made it to 2 meetings all year]!"
Me: "Totally unfair, you jackhole."
Person who suggested this nonsense: "People need to eat! We need to raise money! This will net us $20-30 a meeting!"

Yeah, buddy. Twenty fucking dollars. Tim said (to me, sarcastically) that he'd just donate that much every month if it meant we don't have to clean up.

Jesus. Smack 'em, Teppy. ADD may be an excuse for the actual forgetting in the moment but it's not an excuse to act like an asshole BEFOREHAND.

I've used home warranty at least three times this year. The nice thing about it is having a consolidated place that will find a repair person for you, but of course it's going to be not the best repair person.-- Best for minor issues.

Ugh, this is a point. I mean, I got an Angie's list membership but even just figuring out "do I call a plumber for this? What kind of handyman can handle the front steps, when I'm not even sure what needs doing to them? Why do none of these dryer vent people clean vents on the third floor?" Makes me crazy. And even once you pick someone, calling and leaving messages until you find someone who can come out and fix whatver in a timely fashion....

"Selling snacks can be approved only with a designated cleanup person for each instance (not Steph or Tim). No exceptions." Then they can wrangle about the designated cleanup person until the whole issue is fixed or forgotten.

I'm sure the rest of the board thinks I'm being a dick, but I don't care. If we're supposed to take on a new project, the logistics need to be worked out BEFORE we do it. And no one else is thinking of all the logistics, because no one else stays late enough to clean up. Things like -- if suddenly 15-20 people have bottles of water and snacks, we're going to need bigger (or more) trash cans. And we're going to have to take the trash out before we leave, because we can't leave that for the church (and I have NO idea where the church dumpster is, but I'm willing to bet it's in the back, and I don't want to go out back to the dumpster at 10:30 at night, because -- creepy). When people drop pretzels and then step on them, where is a vacuum cleaner?

The rest of the board doesn't think this is a big deal, because they aren't the ones who have to deal with it.

"Selling snacks can be approved only with a designated cleanup person for each instance (not Steph or Tim). No exceptions." Then they can wrangle about the designated cleanup person until the whole issue is fixed or forgotten.

Actually, that's a good idea -- to say that if there isn't a designated cleanup person, then the snacks don't get brought out to sell. (Of course, the person volunteering to sell them -- but not clean up -- is a bulldozer of a human who will do what she wants anyway, so she'll bring them out to sell them regardless of my objections.)