Well, we may not have parted on the best of terms. I realize certain words were exchanged. Also, certain... bullets. But that's air through the engine. It's past. We're business people.

Mal ,'Serenity'


Natter 73: Chuck Norris only wishes he could Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Mar 19, 2015 4:18:53 am PDT #22544 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Checked off my first to-do item of the day: Filled out my bracket. So that's something! Not something actually work related, but still.


Sue - Mar 19, 2015 4:48:24 am PDT #22545 of 30000
hip deep in pie

I am "working from home". Our CIO sent out an email to our bosses basically saying she didn't know how people were supposed to get to work if the busses weren't running and streets weren't plowed, so to be compassionate and let them work from home if they can. All I will say about my workplace is that is a refreshing change from the usual message.

Mostly working from home has meant being in a email thread with coworkers trying to track down my boss and negotiating switching reference desk shifts.


Steph L. - Mar 19, 2015 5:12:05 am PDT #22546 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Remember how I said I was going to resign from the ADD group? I still am, but I decided to stick out this year, which ends in May.

Now there's a board member who really really wants to sell snacks and water at the meetings to make more money for our chapter. Which is all well and good, but people who are eating and drinking are going to make a mess eventually, and the last people there are going to be stuck with the cleanup -- that's me and Tim.

I have replied to the emails several times with "I am not willing to take on the responsibility of cleanup," and the guy who's gung-ho about snacks keeps replying with things like "I'll clean up *if* I make it to a meeting!" (He's made it to only 1 or 2 meetings this year, so I have very little faith that he'll be there for any others.)

I'm about thisclose to replying with "You CANNOT propose a change and then let other people do the work because fuck you."

I can be passive-aggressive about it and just leave the mess, but that's not fair to the church that lets us have our meetings there. So we'll end up cleaning up, and I will be PISSED.

I seriously am boggled at the cojones it takes to propose a change to the way we do things that creates more work for OTHER people. (No one else is objecting, because no one else is there until 10:30 p.m. It's just me and Tim.)


lisah - Mar 19, 2015 5:20:27 am PDT #22547 of 30000
Punishingly Intricate

"You can sell snacks at the meetings you attend so you can clean up after."


Jesse - Mar 19, 2015 5:27:42 am PDT #22548 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Yeah, how is he selling stuff at meetings he's not at?


Steph L. - Mar 19, 2015 5:31:03 am PDT #22549 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Yeah, how is he selling stuff at meetings he's not at?

He wants someone else to do it. (Someone else has volunteered to sell the snacks, but they won't stay until 10:30 to clean up.)


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 19, 2015 5:50:47 am PDT #22550 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Are there doors you can lock to keep people trapped in the meetings until they clean up their own damn messes?


Steph L. - Mar 19, 2015 6:03:57 am PDT #22551 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I wish! It is reasonable to expect grown-ass adults to clean up after themselves, but shit happens, you know? People spill drinks, drop pretzels and then step on them and grind them into the carpet, and -- most significantly with a group of people with ADD -- really truly intend to clean up but then start talking to someone else and drift out the door while they're talking, with the mess completely forgotten.

It's only 3 meetings (March, April, May) and then I'm finished. But it's not just about me, you know? It's about anyone getting stuck with more work that someone ELSE proposed. Just...no. You want snacks, YOU be the one to sell them and clean up.

But, like I said, no one else on the board raised an objection because they aren't the ones who stay until 10:30. They all leave when the presentation is finished at 8:30 (there are support groups afterward that are supposed to end by 10, but, unsurprisingly, they run over because people will not stop talking).


Jesse - Mar 19, 2015 6:10:26 am PDT #22552 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

You can't get people to agree that cleaning up is a required part of this task?


Steph L. - Mar 19, 2015 6:19:17 am PDT #22553 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

You can't get people to agree that cleaning up is a required part of this task?

Everyone recognizes that cleanup is required, but only one person has acknowledged that they're shafting Tim and me. The emails are kind of shaking out like this:

Person 1: "We need someone willing to take on this responsibility."
Person 2: "I volunteer to set up a table and sell stuff, but I cannot stay to clean up. That means Tim and Steph will have to do it."

(So, for the record, someone other than me explicitly pointed out that we're getting stuck with cleanup.)

Me: "Nope nope nope nope fuck you nope nope nope."
Person who suggested this nonsense: "People will clean up after themselves! If I make it to a meeting, I'll clean up [even though I've only made it to 2 meetings all year]!"
Me: "Totally unfair, you jackhole."
Person who suggested this nonsense: "People need to eat! We need to raise money! This will net us $20-30 a meeting!"

Yeah, buddy. Twenty fucking dollars. Tim said (to me, sarcastically) that he'd just donate that much every month if it meant we don't have to clean up.