Let me guess. We're in a hurry.

Inara ,'Serenity'


Natter 73: Chuck Norris only wishes he could Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Typo Boy - Nov 24, 2014 6:20:38 pm PST #11283 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Maybe it ends when the police are not just another criminal gang under the color of law. I'm not justifying. I'm pointing out the police are the cause, the root of what is happening. Hell for all we know the violence is being led by undercover police. There is plenty of Usa historical precedent. At minimum, tear gassing the peaceful protestors left the field free to the violent ones. That both sides are responsbile does not mean both sides are equally responsible.


shrift - Nov 24, 2014 6:48:27 pm PST #11284 of 30000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I'm not talking about politics or social issues this Thanksgiving. Good luck to any relatives who try it, because I am going to shut it DOWN.


Zenkitty - Nov 24, 2014 7:14:01 pm PST #11285 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Now I've got one old friend (who's spent the 35 years of our acquaintance telling me how sexy and beautiful I am and trying to kiss me, and that's about the extent of our interaction), getting on my FB and my friends' FB telling about an old case he knew about as a lawyer that has nothing to do with the current situation, and how we'll never know what really happened, and we should trust the cops and the legal system, and look at these fools burning down their town, and I'm about to divest myself of this pompous ass once and for all.

I'm not condoning setting things on fire, but I can certainly understand the impulse to do it.


Steph L. - Nov 24, 2014 7:18:09 pm PST #11286 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I'm not condoning setting things on fire, but I can certainly understand the impulse to do it.

I have a friend on FB with an ego the size of Jupiter who's spouting things like "Of course we all know racism is a problem, but burning things down is NOT the way to make yourselves heard! Do you REALLY think this is the way to make REAL CHANGE???" And I just want to comment "Sweetie, do you actually think any of the rioters are reading your FB posts? And if not, then who are these posts for?" (She is a very recent college graduate and is SO VERY SURE of the way the world should work. Half the time I want to hug her and half the time I want to thwack her on the head.)


Zenkitty - Nov 24, 2014 7:22:55 pm PST #11287 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

burning things down is NOT the way to make yourselves heard!

What would she suggest? Peaceful protests? Petitions? Talking to the media? So far those avenues of getting yourselves heard have not been successful. No, setting shit on fire won't work either, but is really that hard to understand the frustrated helpless fury and fear that pushes someone to do it?

It's getting worse in Ferguson. I don't really want to keep watching, but I feel almost obligated. Like, paying attention is the only thing I can actually do at this moment.


Steph L. - Nov 24, 2014 7:25:39 pm PST #11288 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

What would she suggest? Peaceful protests? Petitions? Talking to the media?

She did actually go on to say, "As a woman, I am making changes through peaceful means," blah blah blah. (In terms of women's rights, according to her.) She's very young and very white and very pretty. The system is kind of on her side from the get-go.

It's getting worse in Ferguson. I don't really want to keep watching, but I feel almost obligated. Like, paying attention is the only thing I can actually do at this moment.

Me, too, except I'm falling asleep. I think I'm done for tonight even though I want to stay up.


sj - Nov 24, 2014 7:25:57 pm PST #11289 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I expected no indictment, and yet I'm surprised at how sick I feel that what I expected to happen did actually happen.

Yes, this.


aurelia - Nov 24, 2014 7:40:33 pm PST #11290 of 30000
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I just want to watch the Shia LaBeouf video over and over and ignore the world.


Jesse - Nov 25, 2014 2:32:54 am PST #11291 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

It pisses me off that innocent people are dying at the hands of police over and over and over again all across the United States and it keeps being treated like it's rare or a one time thing. And then there's all the victim blaming.

All of this.


brenda m - Nov 25, 2014 2:36:28 am PST #11292 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

That whole display last night from the prosecutor was hard to stomach. And I can't see the rationale for delaying the announcement the way they did except to ensure the kind of reaction that came. Which neatly changes the conversation from the failure of the prosecutor to the completely predictable aftermath.