River: The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds given adequate vacuuming systems. Mal: See, morbid and creepifying, I got no problem with, long as she does it quiet-like.

'Safe'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Zenkitty - Nov 24, 2014 7:14:01 pm PST #11285 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Now I've got one old friend (who's spent the 35 years of our acquaintance telling me how sexy and beautiful I am and trying to kiss me, and that's about the extent of our interaction), getting on my FB and my friends' FB telling about an old case he knew about as a lawyer that has nothing to do with the current situation, and how we'll never know what really happened, and we should trust the cops and the legal system, and look at these fools burning down their town, and I'm about to divest myself of this pompous ass once and for all.

I'm not condoning setting things on fire, but I can certainly understand the impulse to do it.


Steph L. - Nov 24, 2014 7:18:09 pm PST #11286 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I'm not condoning setting things on fire, but I can certainly understand the impulse to do it.

I have a friend on FB with an ego the size of Jupiter who's spouting things like "Of course we all know racism is a problem, but burning things down is NOT the way to make yourselves heard! Do you REALLY think this is the way to make REAL CHANGE???" And I just want to comment "Sweetie, do you actually think any of the rioters are reading your FB posts? And if not, then who are these posts for?" (She is a very recent college graduate and is SO VERY SURE of the way the world should work. Half the time I want to hug her and half the time I want to thwack her on the head.)


Zenkitty - Nov 24, 2014 7:22:55 pm PST #11287 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

burning things down is NOT the way to make yourselves heard!

What would she suggest? Peaceful protests? Petitions? Talking to the media? So far those avenues of getting yourselves heard have not been successful. No, setting shit on fire won't work either, but is really that hard to understand the frustrated helpless fury and fear that pushes someone to do it?

It's getting worse in Ferguson. I don't really want to keep watching, but I feel almost obligated. Like, paying attention is the only thing I can actually do at this moment.


Steph L. - Nov 24, 2014 7:25:39 pm PST #11288 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

What would she suggest? Peaceful protests? Petitions? Talking to the media?

She did actually go on to say, "As a woman, I am making changes through peaceful means," blah blah blah. (In terms of women's rights, according to her.) She's very young and very white and very pretty. The system is kind of on her side from the get-go.

It's getting worse in Ferguson. I don't really want to keep watching, but I feel almost obligated. Like, paying attention is the only thing I can actually do at this moment.

Me, too, except I'm falling asleep. I think I'm done for tonight even though I want to stay up.


sj - Nov 24, 2014 7:25:57 pm PST #11289 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I expected no indictment, and yet I'm surprised at how sick I feel that what I expected to happen did actually happen.

Yes, this.


aurelia - Nov 24, 2014 7:40:33 pm PST #11290 of 30000
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I just want to watch the Shia LaBeouf video over and over and ignore the world.


Jesse - Nov 25, 2014 2:32:54 am PST #11291 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

It pisses me off that innocent people are dying at the hands of police over and over and over again all across the United States and it keeps being treated like it's rare or a one time thing. And then there's all the victim blaming.

All of this.


brenda m - Nov 25, 2014 2:36:28 am PST #11292 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

That whole display last night from the prosecutor was hard to stomach. And I can't see the rationale for delaying the announcement the way they did except to ensure the kind of reaction that came. Which neatly changes the conversation from the failure of the prosecutor to the completely predictable aftermath.


Anne W. - Nov 25, 2014 2:43:50 am PST #11293 of 30000
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

And I can't see the rationale for delaying the announcement the way they did except to ensure the kind of reaction that came.

I do know that an evening announcement was planned because they wanted to make sure that kids were home from school. Shitloads of schools and daycare centers are closed this morning, which makes sense but causes all kinds of other problems for working parents.

Twelve local businesses were burned to the ground overnight. Over and over again, it's the people who don't deserve to suffer who are suffering. Also, what do the people who are doing the burning and looting think this is doing to help?


brenda m - Nov 25, 2014 3:02:37 am PST #11294 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Then do it at 8 AM the following day, which is when organized protests were planned anyway. 8:30 PM is a great way to ensure that the young and disaffected make up the bulk of the crowd and that the groups who have been planning and training for this are not present in large numbers, if at all.

They know this just from recent Ferguson history.

Also, what do the people who are doing the burning and looting think this is doing to help?

It's a mistake to try to read it as constructive when at heart it's despair and outrage. I'm not saying it's the right reaction. But lashing out is a very human reaction - again, encouraged by the fact that what you had was largely a crowd of young, disaffected men who've just been basically told they are fair game because they're just so inherently scary.