I'm so sorry, but if it makes you feel any better, my fun-time-Buffy party night involved watching a robot throw Spike through a window, so if you want to trade... no wait, I wouldn't give up that memory for anything.

Buffy ,'Get It Done'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


brenda m - Nov 25, 2014 2:36:28 am PST #11292 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

That whole display last night from the prosecutor was hard to stomach. And I can't see the rationale for delaying the announcement the way they did except to ensure the kind of reaction that came. Which neatly changes the conversation from the failure of the prosecutor to the completely predictable aftermath.


Anne W. - Nov 25, 2014 2:43:50 am PST #11293 of 30000
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

And I can't see the rationale for delaying the announcement the way they did except to ensure the kind of reaction that came.

I do know that an evening announcement was planned because they wanted to make sure that kids were home from school. Shitloads of schools and daycare centers are closed this morning, which makes sense but causes all kinds of other problems for working parents.

Twelve local businesses were burned to the ground overnight. Over and over again, it's the people who don't deserve to suffer who are suffering. Also, what do the people who are doing the burning and looting think this is doing to help?


brenda m - Nov 25, 2014 3:02:37 am PST #11294 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Then do it at 8 AM the following day, which is when organized protests were planned anyway. 8:30 PM is a great way to ensure that the young and disaffected make up the bulk of the crowd and that the groups who have been planning and training for this are not present in large numbers, if at all.

They know this just from recent Ferguson history.

Also, what do the people who are doing the burning and looting think this is doing to help?

It's a mistake to try to read it as constructive when at heart it's despair and outrage. I'm not saying it's the right reaction. But lashing out is a very human reaction - again, encouraged by the fact that what you had was largely a crowd of young, disaffected men who've just been basically told they are fair game because they're just so inherently scary.


Anne W. - Nov 25, 2014 3:27:48 am PST #11295 of 30000
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

The more cynical part of me thinks the announcement was planned for maximum prime time coverage. I can't let myself think of anything more sinister or I'll just give up. I should probably just stay away from the internet today. I'm heartsick and dismayed at all the ugliness I've seen people reveal about themselves. I'm even starting to be bothered by people whose views I agree with.


brenda m - Nov 25, 2014 3:28:55 am PST #11296 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I hear you.


Jesse - Nov 25, 2014 3:47:56 am PST #11297 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

And not to be all "outside agitators!" conspiracy theory, but on the news last night, one of the people at the front of the crowd somewhere was wearing a Guy Fawkes mask.


Steph L. - Nov 25, 2014 3:52:10 am PST #11298 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Narrrrrrr. One FB friend is sanctimoniously saying that anyone without a law degree should not be expressing an opinion about the grand jury decision.

I don't have enough coffee in me to do more than glare and the screen and mutter "Fuuuuuuuuuuck youuuuuuuuuuu."


Fred Pete - Nov 25, 2014 4:14:48 am PST #11299 of 30000
Ann, that's a ferret.

(She is a very recent college graduate and is SO VERY SURE of the way the world should work. Half the time I want to hug her and half the time I want to thwack her on the head.)

They're so cute at that age.

One FB friend is sanctimoniously saying that anyone without a law degree should not be expressing an opinion about the grand jury decision.

You can tell that person that, according to one of your online friends with a J.D. what your friend calls "a law degree"), the D.A. set forth a pretty good case for voluntary manslaughter. (You don't need to tell that person that I last studied criminal law almost 30 years ago, and I have never needed to know the laws involving homicide as part of my practice.)

If there is a silver lining to the Michael Brown matter, it's that it feels like a tipping point. The media aren't treating police shootings as one-off incidents anymore -- they're looking at a broader problem. Which means the opportunity to attempt (or at least discuss) broader solutions.


Tom Scola - Nov 25, 2014 4:22:14 am PST #11300 of 30000
hwæt

Oh, hey, I just got my 200th follower on Tumblr last night. It only took me three years.


Jessica - Nov 25, 2014 5:06:59 am PST #11301 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Congrats, Tom!

I...am ignoring the news. I don't have room in my head to be angry at anything else right now.