It's a real burden being right so often.

Mal ,'Bushwhacked'


Natter 72: We Were Unprepared for This  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Hil R. - Sep 29, 2013 3:02:29 am PDT #7171 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

HIll, that is amazing. I'll see if the date fits.

Thanks. I think I can email you links to the records on Ancestry. The immigration record was a bit of a hunch, but I found a couple of others that seem to support it being the right one.

edit: I emailed you a few of the records. I'm not sure why Ancestry won't let me email the others. Don't reply to the email address that's attached to those -- profile address is good.


Hil R. - Sep 29, 2013 3:23:32 am PDT #7172 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

My train of thought there, by the way, was first that William probably wasn't the name on the immigration forms, since that name really wasn't used in Eastern Europe. So I first searched for William Lipowitz, and found a census record that listed his immigration year as 1905. Then I searched the immigration records for Lipowitz, and looked through them until I found a name that could reasonably be Anglicized to William, in a year around 1905, and found Welwel. Then, to see if I could find other stuff to support it, I searched for all records under William Lipow, and found his death record, which lists his mother's maiden name (though, in my experience, the mother's maiden name on death certificates is frequently wrong), and his grave, which has his Hebrew name as Velvel ben Yitzchak Chaim.

Oh, and once I saw the town listed as Czaus on the ship manifest, I went to JewishGen.org, which has a database of Jewish communities. Searched for Czaus, and got a list of about ten possibilities. I think two of them were in the Russian Empire, and of those two, one of them had an alternate name of Czausy, so I figured that had to be it.


Theodosia - Sep 29, 2013 3:59:02 am PDT #7173 of 30000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Which reminds me, I want to go and see who owned my house in 1900, 1910, et cetera. Trying to imagine the lives of the people who lived here through the years.

I'm in awe, Hil. I thought I was pretty clever when I found the Census records for my grandparents and aunt in 1940....


WindSparrow - Sep 29, 2013 5:16:26 am PDT #7174 of 30000
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

There are entirely too many people named Ephraim Hixson in my tree for my peace of mind, especially since they all seem to have married a Margaret at least once. And don't get me started on men surviving a marriage to one Mary Ann only to turn around and marry another Mary Ann. I mean sure, it saves on monogramming linens and you don't have to worry about calling out the wrong name at interesting moments, but c'mon now....


Consuela - Sep 29, 2013 6:26:04 am PDT #7175 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Bravo, Hil! We bow before your geneaology-fu!

Today is a busy day: I'm taking Dad to church & then to brunch, then a bike ride with my sister, and then we're going to see Twenty Feet from Stardom at the brewpub theater. I'm looking forward to checking out the food at this place: so far all I've had is beer and popcorn.

Tomorrow I need to re-start the job hunt, woo and hoo. SIGH.


Jesse - Sep 29, 2013 6:30:53 am PDT #7176 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

So I underestimated how many beets I actually had, but I think the soup is still delicious.


meara - Sep 29, 2013 6:37:41 am PDT #7177 of 30000

Does that mean you have more soup than planned, or still have beets?


§ ita § - Sep 29, 2013 6:37:46 am PDT #7178 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So I underestimated how many beets I actually had

0, the number of times I've made that mistake.


Jesse - Sep 29, 2013 6:40:04 am PDT #7179 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I meant overestimated! It means I have soup that isn't that beet-y.

Ooh, that Jamaican woman on the Voice is great. (Side note: Reality TV really is the vanguard of diversity on TV. No one would cast her to play a Jamaican on a scripted show. Ditto this woman from Supermarket Superstar.)


§ ita § - Sep 29, 2013 6:42:10 am PDT #7180 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Ooh, that Jamaican woman on the Voice is great

Apparently Jamaica is terribly excited and also are simultaneously wondering why a woman who's so famous to them is climbing up from the bottom, but such is the paradox of elsewhere.