Tell me more good stuff about me.

Kaylee ,'The Message'


Natter 72: We Were Unprepared for This  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Jun 01, 2014 5:56:51 am PDT #28914 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

When you are speaking colloquially.

I resent that wholebrained and wholetonguedly, and decamp to the progressive descriptivists.

I honestly can't think of a more reflexive absolutely incorrect sentence. I've said its equivalent hundreds and hundreds of times by now, but I only think about it when someone answers the phone by saying "Yes, this is she." Say "It's me," for fuck's sake. You TV writers (Dr Who's decimators aside) get everything else wrong.

tl/dr: If you think I'm gonna stop saying it, you've got another think coming.

I hope I'm not being a favouritist, but I have read rumours of Fassbender being domestically abusive, but I haven't read enough. I hope that's not me being shitty and shallow. I used to love the Lethal Weapon guy, and now I can't even remember his name, his case was so clear cut. People like Sean Penn, Chris Brown, the butt toilet wipes guy, Christian Slater...I know it's naive to trust the legal system, especially where the rich and famous are concerned, but convictions hold more weight with me--I am admittedly very curious about the Fassbender incident(s). Dropped charges? I don't know what to think, and I'd rather not hate if I can avoid it.

Ha! I can't believe I just said I'd rather not hate. I hate everything. But sometimes unreal avatars of physical attractiveness and acting talent--well, I want to see them in a court being judged and juried for many of their accusations (it really doesn't help that he knows (AFAIK) how not to be an offensive moron in public statements).

And, lord, if anyone gets racial on the "WHY DOES CHRIS BROWN STILL GET HATE???" someone needs to show them Sheen. They both get work, but I don't think their reps are rehabbed. I do definitely believe that the black man (person) is at a disadvantage when it comes to the courts of law and public opinion, but sometimes I'm good with staying mad at obviously horrible things.

He won't be playing my kid's bat mitzvah, that's for sure.

In unrelated news, I don't know if I slept last night. I am on as much painkillers as I dare before the big D comes, but I haven't had period cramps that battle past mirtzapine, methadone, lidocaine patches and a fuck of a lot of controlled breathing this way.

Random ita pain fact: When *something* hurts really badly (injuries not included) I get referred pain to my quads. Which makes me want to scrape them off--but headaches, backaches, period pain, toothaches--if they're bad enough to want to shut me down, my legs go too.

I need to watch Losers after Orphan Black this morning. And find that damned heating pad. Or three. Yes, probably all three will be best.


-t - Jun 01, 2014 6:02:50 am PDT #28915 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Referred pain is an evil gift with purchase. Do not like.

OK, I am going to go to the gym and attempt to swim. Here I go.


Jesse - Jun 01, 2014 6:05:07 am PDT #28916 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

tl/dr: If you think I'm gonna stop saying it, you've got another think coming.

I would never stop saying it! But I just don't think there's a defensible argument for it to be found in the Rules of English Grammar.

I also confess to have made my peace with separating the person's work from their personal life, possibly mostly because of Chris Brown. I truly believe he's a terrible person, but still enjoy some of his songs.


Consuela - Jun 01, 2014 6:05:55 am PDT #28917 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Yikes, ita. Much pain-relief to you!

Speaking of public redemptions, is Cat Stevens now considered redeemed after the fatwa business? I always loved his music, too, but that was pretty seriously messed up. Has he admitted it was possibly not an appropriate thing to do? (My brain refuses to cough up the -- oh, wait, there it is, Salman Rushdie's name.)

In other news, I got a shower! I wasn't able to wash my hair, but at least it got rinsed and the rest of me got washed. I can't recommend this as a diet, but I lost six pounds this week and my new raw jeans feel more comfortable. AND I was able to get down on the floor and do some leg-lifts and ab exercises, which makes me feel slightly less sloth-like. I can't do pushups or anything that would move my head much, but leg-lifts got my heart-rate moving.

I might even take the dog for a walk later, just around the block...


Burrell - Jun 01, 2014 6:17:53 am PDT #28918 of 30000
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

the butt toilet wipes guy

I should not find this as funny as I do given that I think of him the same way, but hilarious! It always takes me a while to pull up his name--Terrence Howard--whereas the mental reference of butt wipes appears immediately.

I know nothing of accusations against Fassbender or even Slater (clearly I don't pay enough attention to the rumor machine), but in the RL incidents of domestic abuse I know, dropped charges were not strongly correlated with lack of evidence. On the other hand, I have an acquaintance who loves to share on FB all the dirty ugly celebrity gossip she's heard, and it just feels dirty to me. Like I don't really know these people, and if they really are battling these personal demons, they deserve the decency of being able to do it privately.


§ ita § - Jun 01, 2014 6:27:20 am PDT #28919 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

in the RL incidents of domestic abuse I know, dropped charges were not strongly correlated with lack of evidence.

I know that entirely. But I do believe the people found guilty were found guilty. I've never spoken to Fassbender's ex. I know nothing but gossip source reports. I don't feel comfortable judging someone harshly enough to avoid their work (and I still listen to music with Ike Turner on it, I'm just not a FAN) based on a business whose job is to get clicks and incite tittering and pearl clutching.

Christian Slater served time in prison for domestic assault. Not long, but time.

People might not be innocent until proven guilty, but I'm not using magazines and gossip articles as courts.


Burrell - Jun 01, 2014 6:32:18 am PDT #28920 of 30000
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I also confess to have made my peace with separating the person's work from their personal life

Grad school forced me to deal with that in the persons of Ezra Pound and TS Eliot, although really it just made me realize it's all messy. Some artists deliberately grapple with their personal lives in their works, others NSM. I totally get why it can be hard or even impossible to get past it sometimes.

Speaking of public redemptions, is Cat Stevens now considered redeemed after the fatwa business?

He has talked about it and admitted that he was in error, but I assume that for some his words are unforgivable. For me, it's just so tempting to read spiritual longing in many of his songs, so his actions -- both good and bad -- fit with his music.


Burrell - Jun 01, 2014 6:35:12 am PDT #28921 of 30000
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I don't feel comfortable judging someone harshly enough to avoid their work

Based on just gossip? Nor do I, in case that wasn't clear.


Amy - Jun 01, 2014 6:36:44 am PDT #28922 of 30000
Because books.

I was just blown away hearing him sing them -- I haven't listened to "Morning Has Broken" in years, and it really struck me how simple and powerful and beautiful it is.

I've sort of stopped paying attention to artists' private lives unless their transgressions are really blatant -- Chris Brown, for instance, not that I was ever a fan -- because I just don't have the energy to police myself that strictly.


meara - Jun 01, 2014 6:45:38 am PDT #28923 of 30000

Ok. 15 minutes until I start my first ever 10k. Not sure about this, I've got a cold and a couple spots that hurt. But it is a beautiful day here! I'm in Port Angeles, WA.