You're nice, and you're funny and you don't smoke, and okay, werewolf, but that's not all the time. I mean, three days out of the month, I'm not much fun to be around, either.

Willow ,'Get It Done'


Natter 72: We Were Unprepared for This  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Jun 01, 2014 6:05:07 am PDT #28916 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

tl/dr: If you think I'm gonna stop saying it, you've got another think coming.

I would never stop saying it! But I just don't think there's a defensible argument for it to be found in the Rules of English Grammar.

I also confess to have made my peace with separating the person's work from their personal life, possibly mostly because of Chris Brown. I truly believe he's a terrible person, but still enjoy some of his songs.


Consuela - Jun 01, 2014 6:05:55 am PDT #28917 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Yikes, ita. Much pain-relief to you!

Speaking of public redemptions, is Cat Stevens now considered redeemed after the fatwa business? I always loved his music, too, but that was pretty seriously messed up. Has he admitted it was possibly not an appropriate thing to do? (My brain refuses to cough up the -- oh, wait, there it is, Salman Rushdie's name.)

In other news, I got a shower! I wasn't able to wash my hair, but at least it got rinsed and the rest of me got washed. I can't recommend this as a diet, but I lost six pounds this week and my new raw jeans feel more comfortable. AND I was able to get down on the floor and do some leg-lifts and ab exercises, which makes me feel slightly less sloth-like. I can't do pushups or anything that would move my head much, but leg-lifts got my heart-rate moving.

I might even take the dog for a walk later, just around the block...


Burrell - Jun 01, 2014 6:17:53 am PDT #28918 of 30000
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

the butt toilet wipes guy

I should not find this as funny as I do given that I think of him the same way, but hilarious! It always takes me a while to pull up his name--Terrence Howard--whereas the mental reference of butt wipes appears immediately.

I know nothing of accusations against Fassbender or even Slater (clearly I don't pay enough attention to the rumor machine), but in the RL incidents of domestic abuse I know, dropped charges were not strongly correlated with lack of evidence. On the other hand, I have an acquaintance who loves to share on FB all the dirty ugly celebrity gossip she's heard, and it just feels dirty to me. Like I don't really know these people, and if they really are battling these personal demons, they deserve the decency of being able to do it privately.


§ ita § - Jun 01, 2014 6:27:20 am PDT #28919 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

in the RL incidents of domestic abuse I know, dropped charges were not strongly correlated with lack of evidence.

I know that entirely. But I do believe the people found guilty were found guilty. I've never spoken to Fassbender's ex. I know nothing but gossip source reports. I don't feel comfortable judging someone harshly enough to avoid their work (and I still listen to music with Ike Turner on it, I'm just not a FAN) based on a business whose job is to get clicks and incite tittering and pearl clutching.

Christian Slater served time in prison for domestic assault. Not long, but time.

People might not be innocent until proven guilty, but I'm not using magazines and gossip articles as courts.


Burrell - Jun 01, 2014 6:32:18 am PDT #28920 of 30000
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I also confess to have made my peace with separating the person's work from their personal life

Grad school forced me to deal with that in the persons of Ezra Pound and TS Eliot, although really it just made me realize it's all messy. Some artists deliberately grapple with their personal lives in their works, others NSM. I totally get why it can be hard or even impossible to get past it sometimes.

Speaking of public redemptions, is Cat Stevens now considered redeemed after the fatwa business?

He has talked about it and admitted that he was in error, but I assume that for some his words are unforgivable. For me, it's just so tempting to read spiritual longing in many of his songs, so his actions -- both good and bad -- fit with his music.


Burrell - Jun 01, 2014 6:35:12 am PDT #28921 of 30000
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I don't feel comfortable judging someone harshly enough to avoid their work

Based on just gossip? Nor do I, in case that wasn't clear.


Amy - Jun 01, 2014 6:36:44 am PDT #28922 of 30000
Because books.

I was just blown away hearing him sing them -- I haven't listened to "Morning Has Broken" in years, and it really struck me how simple and powerful and beautiful it is.

I've sort of stopped paying attention to artists' private lives unless their transgressions are really blatant -- Chris Brown, for instance, not that I was ever a fan -- because I just don't have the energy to police myself that strictly.


meara - Jun 01, 2014 6:45:38 am PDT #28923 of 30000

Ok. 15 minutes until I start my first ever 10k. Not sure about this, I've got a cold and a couple spots that hurt. But it is a beautiful day here! I'm in Port Angeles, WA.


Laura - Jun 01, 2014 6:46:33 am PDT #28924 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

For my overwhelming stuff I have done nothing today yet, but I did come up with a new plan. That counts, right?

The past few weekends I have tried to pack up boxes in various areas of things we aren't using on a very frequent basis. The theory being that it will make the house more viewable for sale, and that it will make moving easier with much of the stuff packed and in storage. That is going fairly well, but more still to be done. This has expanded to clearing absolutely everything out except bare necessities for DH and moving the boys and me to Otter Lake for the summer. What we don't take with us goes in storage. I expect us to be out of here in 2 weeks. Gulp.

Before I leave I am going to try to complete one each of 8 house zones per day. Cleaning, packing, putty & sand here, paint there. By the time I finish the house will have only a tiny amount of DH's stuff left and will be ready for showing on a moment's notice or open houses, etc. Frankly I am pretty freaked by the notion of open house with my stuff here. Ick.

Now I am exhausted just thinking about it, but it has to happen.


Laura - Jun 01, 2014 6:53:37 am PDT #28925 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

In other news, I got a shower!

YaY! I hope improvement happens soon on all functionality.

Congrats to the people doing 5k and 10k or any athletic ventures. Someday again I will join you! In the meantime I shall sit here and applaud enthusiastically.

I am pretty successful with watching and listening to entertainers while putting aside my disgust with their personal behavior. Often it is because I am unaware. Other times (like OJ in Airplane! I just ignore it)