Sooner or later, you're gonna want it. And the second — the second — that happens, you know I'll be there. I'll slip in, have myself a real good day.

Spike ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 72: We Were Unprepared for This  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Burrell - Apr 28, 2014 12:36:54 pm PDT #26345 of 30000
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I steam them as -t says. Back when I was just cooking for myself I didn't do much prep, but the kids eat them more happily if I cut off the prickly tops and pull off the tough outer leaves. They are a bit of job to eat, but that is a plus if you like to play with your food. The only tricky part is using a spoon to scoop out the inner part of the flower after you've nommed all the leaves, and then you get to nom on the heart!


Burrell - Apr 28, 2014 12:38:44 pm PDT #26346 of 30000
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Oh, and yes Connie. The tender inner leaves are more edible.


Jessica - Apr 28, 2014 1:08:33 pm PDT #26347 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I lob off the prickly tops so that they can steam upside-down without rolling over. No idea why other than that's how my mom did it.

When I was a toddler, I used to walk around the table making puppy-dog eyes at other family members until they shared their artichoke hearts with me. I looooooooove them.


Steph L. - Apr 28, 2014 1:21:52 pm PDT #26348 of 30000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I loves me some artichoke hearts, but eating the yummy stuff at the base of the leaves always felt like too much work to me. (I also dislike shelling pistachios, so basically you can assume I don't want my food to put up too much of a challenge.)


Ginger - Apr 28, 2014 1:23:29 pm PDT #26349 of 30000
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Artichokes. Yummm.

The internet is getting on my nerves. I've wanted to write derisive comments on almost every article I read today.


Hil R. - Apr 28, 2014 1:49:34 pm PDT #26350 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Hil, it's a Reform COngregation. The webpage for bar/bat mitzahs say they welcome all family members to participate in the ceremony, regardless of religious affiliation, and they customize the ceremony with the kid's input, so I think it's up to M. He's a doll, and loves all of his parents, so I'm happy to participate or to witness, whatever HE wants.

What roles might a parent-figure play in the ceremony? Do family members give speeches or toasts at the after-party? As long as I wear a modest dress, are bright colors or such verboten? Do parents just pay for the party, or is an additional gift to the child de riguer?

There are lots of things that you could do at the ceremony. Sometimes parents give speeches there. You could also lead the congregation in a reading in English for one of the prayers, or something like that. At a Reform congregation, you don't really need to worry about dress rules at all. I'd avoid anything sleeveless, or with too short a skirt or too low a neckline, but you don't really need to worry too much about that.

The usual thing done at the party is that they bring out a cake with 13 candles, and the bar/bat mitzvah kid gets a microphone and calls 13 people (or small groups of people) up to each light one of the candles. Usually, the parents write something for him to read about how each person is special to him. (This is to avoid what happened at one bar mitzvah, where the kid was just given the list of names, and he introduced my parents with, "I don't really know them -- they're friends with my parents.)

As for gifts, I'm not sure.


Juliebird - Apr 28, 2014 1:56:53 pm PDT #26351 of 30000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Artichokes: I find them to be great appetizers, not only are they nummy when dipped on butter, but the fact that they take awhile to eat makes them great for staving hunger before the main course while also not filling you up.

Stuffed artichokes, however, are nasty dirty wrong things.


§ ita § - Apr 28, 2014 2:06:44 pm PDT #26352 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Never had artichokes.

Came back after another meeting, and he ison the phone talking about varsity this junior that, and the woman in the cube behind him was the very picture of exasperation. Poor thing. At least I wasn't here.


Dana - Apr 28, 2014 2:12:30 pm PDT #26353 of 30000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I like my artichokes stuffed.

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-t - Apr 28, 2014 2:21:46 pm PDT #26354 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I just don't even understand that. I've only tried stuffed artichokes a couple of times, and they are okay, I guess, but not really better than non-stuffed artichokes and I'd rather have my stuffing inside a bird soaking up all those juices.

The thing that intrigues me about roasting artichokes (besides how roasting is inherently deliciousness enhancing) is that you slice the artichokes in half and scoop out the prickly thready bits you don't eat before you roast. Wacky, but if it's really not hard and works, pretty cool.